Hello GUBU,
Because of that and because I was not the one in the original conversation with you, I wasn’t going to respond. As a former fly half, I have no problem binding on to another’s maul, though, so I’ll jump in.
Here’s what I saw. Snowtracks (not me) posted:
Is that the direction you were going? I may have misunderstood. Let me know.
(January 23, 2024 at 8:08 pm)GUBU Wrote: Awww does the little idiot have a sad because he has no refutation to my argument?I have to hand it to you. You are consistent in your malice.
Get over yourself and stop wallowing in baseless self-pity.
Because of that and because I was not the one in the original conversation with you, I wasn’t going to respond. As a former fly half, I have no problem binding on to another’s maul, though, so I’ll jump in.
Here’s what I saw. Snowtracks (not me) posted:
(January 14, 2024 at 12:00 am)snowtracks Wrote: They would be convinced if the universe was created. Ref: *Your argument was
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*Big Bang Theory: Evolution of Our Universe - Universe Today
(January 19, 2024 at 6:38 pm)GUBU Wrote: You do understand that our current model of the big bang doesn't posit a creation of matter, just the expansion of the vast majority (there are spontaneously created particles) of it from an infinitely dense singularity to the state it's in* today.Snowtracks came back with
(January 23, 2024 at 3:25 am)snowtracks Wrote: Philosophical statement - If anything now exists, then something must be eternal or if not eternal then what exists came out of nothing.Which is pretty much axiomatic, though I would say it differently.
(January 23, 2024 at 11:54 am)SimpleCaveman Wrote: Everything has to come from something. If there is a thing that doesn’t come from something else, then that thing must be eternal. (adding: by eternal, I mean without beginning)You countered snowtracks by saying.
(January 23, 2024 at 9:16 am)GUBU Wrote: And what does your meaningless string of words prove? Well aside from ghe fact that you have trouble understanding anything.When there is ambiguity in what another says, I try not to assume that I know what they are saying without verifying. So, given the thread above, I take it that the argument for which you want a response is that because our current model of the big bang does not posit the creation of matter, just it’s expansion, then that means the universe wasn’t created. Since the universe wasn’t created, there is no reason to be convinced that God is real. Did I get that right?
Is that the direction you were going? I may have misunderstood. Let me know.