RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 24, 2024 at 8:41 am
(This post was last modified: February 24, 2024 at 9:32 am by Leonardo17.)
(February 23, 2024 at 7:44 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Where did you come up with that meaning for SOB?
The original meaning is a sexual thing of course: Kuon in ancient Greek means a female dog too. What it really means is an AH beyond repair. Someone who is “bad”. Meaning completely selfish and arrogant, unable of seeing value in things other than himself. In most languages SOB is the top of the top. That person is not a typical jerk or AH but someone who is really beyond that. (Someone builds a personal palace of 200,000 square feet with state funds in are private property are of 180 acres which has vineyard, wine production facilities, a private church an underground ice hockey stadium and many other luxury items while dissidents die in the arctic, citizens are fleeing the countries and those who can’t are getting killed in Ukraine).
Is this a bad definition?


Grandnudger:
Quote:It can be both, Leo. A thief and a madman, judging by this particular smash and grab attempt.
I'd love to see that army of 1.3 million. They're having enough trouble training and equipping the army they have. Gonna be a whole lot of stick and stone brigades. I'm not sure what you would take as evidence that china has supported russia if chinese mortar shells found in the vicinity of dead ukranians doesn't count. Russia can't make enough tanks, russia cant make enough ammo, russia cant train enough soldiers, and russia couldn't feed or clothe them or keep them operational even if they could build or train them.
-and that, is why they wanted a three day war. We're now in year three of putins three day invasion, he remains a master strategist.
I do not entirely disagree with that. But it seems like they are learning from their mistakes and they are reforming and regrouping. Some people do as far as saying that Ukraine might have to surrender if Western aid was to stop:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-cant-...13024.html
And even with continued with Western support, we do not know for sure if they will really be able to recover the territories that were occupied by Russia either. So I am beginning to think that perhaps that might not be possible at all. Yes, Ukranians are more motivated and better equipped than Russians but they are still human beings. It’s hard. 2 years into an a war of attrition is not an east task for anyone.

So this is a no choice situation. This is definitely not easy after three decades of peaceful coexistence between all major powers.
I would agree with any peace plan (including leaving Crimea + Donbass + other occupied areas to Russia) but the man is a gangster. He is not to be trusted: The week before the invasion he probably repeated 20 times that he won’t attack Ukraine. How do you deal with that kind of person?

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