(July 2, 2009 at 10:51 am)Tsuyoiko Wrote:(July 2, 2009 at 10:28 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: I don't think you can and I think it's dishonest to say you can. It really depends on the concept of god and there are many concepts. If there concept of god is just a first cause, a creative energy that started the universe, I don't think we can conclusively disprove that concept the way we can with a personal god.
I take your point. I think you're saying that in order to claim that the concept is incoherent I would need to examine every possible concept, and in order to do that I would require all knowledge?
Exactly. Granted, under the true definition of agnosticism, everyone really is agnostic. But the term is used for claims. As in, someone can claim gnosticism about a subject, although I think it's intellectual dishonest. I don't think gnosticism, especially about the divine, is possible, especially when they can be millions of interpretations. (And sorry for the delayed response, there's a pesky 4th of July Holiday in my country, and I've been busy.
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Now, I had a long argument on facebook over agnosticism so I'm not in the mood to get in another one, so I'm not going to touch the argument about scales.
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