RE: Atheism and Ethics
June 9, 2024 at 10:21 am
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2024 at 10:25 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Same. Gods are a null value in moral consideration. It's right there on the tin. Moral consideration, not god consideration.
@Lucian
We could also add that moral abolitionism as described might be a pragmatic way to do things even if there are objective moral truths...and it should not be lost on an observer that the means and aims of abolitionists tend to align with the same content in objectivist metrics. Semantic rather than content difference. Here's where moral objectivism is really insidious. The very minute a person makes a non-novel fact claim - say that there is..objectively...some better™ way to deal with an issue, they've already let the black cat in...it's only a matter of time until it puts it butt-tongue in the cereal bowl.
(underneath it all, btw, I think that most human beings really are motivated towards factual appraisals. Biological intersubjectivity as a product of dinner seeking behaviors. The conflicts tend to arise when the facts as we apprehend them are not the same as the facts as we wish for them to be.)
@Lucian
We could also add that moral abolitionism as described might be a pragmatic way to do things even if there are objective moral truths...and it should not be lost on an observer that the means and aims of abolitionists tend to align with the same content in objectivist metrics. Semantic rather than content difference. Here's where moral objectivism is really insidious. The very minute a person makes a non-novel fact claim - say that there is..objectively...some better™ way to deal with an issue, they've already let the black cat in...it's only a matter of time until it puts it butt-tongue in the cereal bowl.
(underneath it all, btw, I think that most human beings really are motivated towards factual appraisals. Biological intersubjectivity as a product of dinner seeking behaviors. The conflicts tend to arise when the facts as we apprehend them are not the same as the facts as we wish for them to be.)
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