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Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
ok let me clarify on most of what it said. yes, there was slavery in the bible and yes it was allowed but very restricted like people selling themselves. yes i did talk about slavery in america and i wasn't sugar coating i'm just saying it got a lot worse as time went along. it wasn't that bad when it started compared to when plantations started to rise but it was still worse than any other slavery that has occured b/c it dehumanized their race. the slavery in the bible is no worse than being an endentured survant. your rape part was refuted already as it's a punishment not an encouragment and no we don't pick and choose what laws to follow. they apply but not to the extent of the commandment. when jesus came he brought us the doctrine of forgiveness so just b/c someone has an affair doesn't mean they should be stoned to death. some cleanlyness laws are replaced with modern hygene but all the commandments apply.

"Does that mean my religion is chipanisfullofshitianity?"

you obviously didn't read what i said. i didn't say just what you believe. if you want to mock me at least get my words right

"What the fucking is that supposed to mean? Way of life of the culture of the time? This is 21th century for goodness' sake! What world are you living in, anyway?"

well you took the slavery scripture out of context so that could make your understanding of it and you can't equate american slavery to what happened back then they were very different.

"You don't know what you are talking about. The lack of belief in deity is entirely based on reason, logic and critical thinking, not faith. The definition of belief does not imply religion - you will need anything like deity, spirituality and supernatural to complete the context."

you obviously don't understand what i'm saying. the very first thing i said is it's what they do believe. athiests believe there is no god and the physical world is all there is. that means they believe the only things that exist are matter, energy, and the space time continuum. they don't believe in nothing, they believe in only what's physical and believe there is nothing spiritual. non religious, which i've already explained, would to say they aren't sure if there is a god or not or to just not care.

"Why did god save those people from slavery instead of all people? Perhaps because they wrote the story, and that's what it is, as the narrative you're referencing is a fictional one. "

i don't care if you believe it or not even historians achknowlege that it's true. they even have entire history channel episodes trying to find rational explinations to what happened in these bible stories. you can believe they were made up, that the cival war didn't happen or whatever you want but i don't need to defend these. historians already know about them.

"You're doing cartwheels now trying to define what atheism is, or what atheists "believe" so that you'll have something to say about atheism. You're doing this because you actually have nothing to say, and the situation is identical with regards to god. You have no idea what you're talking about."

nope i'm actually talking about athiesm being a religion b/c blam brought it up.

i"You know science, you know scriptures, you know all about atheism. If only you hadn't given me every reason to "believe" the opposite. There you go, now you can rant and rave about something I actually believe, rather than inventing beliefs for me."

i haven't done anything to your beliefs your mind was already closed long before i said a word. i'm not inventing beliefs, i went by it's definition, nothing more but you fail to read what i post along with others.
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RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole - by chi pan - December 26, 2011 at 10:49 pm

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