(December 27, 2011 at 11:01 pm)chipan Wrote: you're not seeing the point. this is how it was, back then the only way to make money was to own land cuz otherwise you would be homeless.I'm not talking about social welfare or accepted norms back in the day. I'm talking about the morality of owning another human being as though it were property.
It might have been accepted back then as normal in a given society but that doesn't make ownership of another human being moral or justified.
For example, if I were a citizen of Afghanistan and I've been pining for a woman that's just not too interested in me and I wanted to marry her - then I could rape her and she would be obligated to marry me or be put into prison.
This is apparently acceptable practice there. I recieve no punishment if I'm willing to marry her and I get a slap on the wrist legally if I don't.
Where is the morality or justice in that?
Owning a human being is immoral. God is fine with slavery and he's fine with the rape/marriage scenario I outlined above in the bible.
bible Wrote:Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes."
This man is called 'just' and 'righteous' by god in a later passage.
Deuteronomy 22 Wrote:If a man rapes an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay her father 50 shekels of silver and then marry her. 22:28Oh no! The man is slightly inconvenienced and is forced to marry the woman's father's property.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
