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Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
(December 28, 2011 at 12:11 am)chipan Wrote: you don't get it it doesn't matter if it was justified or not it happened none the less. the only thing the bible said about it was to treat them very well and not to treat them like a piece of property or cattle. if you read the context of those scriptures you gave me rather than just readint 1 verse you would know that. why don't you actually read the restrictions so you can learn for yourself what the bible says about slavery. taking things out of contect isn't a good way to argue and only works on those who haven't actually read what your talking about.
I've read the bible. Don't mistake my only quoting individual passages as being the same thing as having only read one such passage and ignored the rest. The "context" doesn't make the passage better it only makes it worse. My arguement is that the bible does not depict slavery or rape as immoral ways to treat a human person and even depicts them as acceptable.

(December 28, 2011 at 12:11 am)chipan Wrote: slightly inconvienced? do you know how much 50 shekels of silver is? he could sell himself for 7 years and not be able to make that much. here's how it works- a man rapes a woman who is a virgin and not betrothed. it gets found out and the man is forced to pay tribute to her family and marry her and support her for the rest of his life. imagine if you lost your virginity to someone you didn't know that well and was forced to marry them. how would you like that? do you think that would only "slightly" inconvenience you?
If I worked minimum wage for years, I still might not afford a new car, but being forced to pay the bank a stipend for some years for a new car is hardly any kind of punishment and the example I brought was one of the few instances in the bible where the rape-marriage theme has any kind of punishment at all.
Don't even get me started on how many people murdered hundreds or thousands in the name of the LORD, in the direction or command of the LORD, or were killed directly by the LORD.
None of those things are moral actions by any of the individuals involved.

(December 28, 2011 at 12:11 am)chipan Wrote: here's a video that's 7 and a half minutes long. if you have an open mind go ahead and watch it. it's about a film that has a bunch of scientists loosing their jobs b/c they say some things that conflict with evolution. it doesn't look like they are very opened minded in the scientific community but here's the video

Here's the thing. Scientic theories are testable, falsifiable, and require months or even years of peer review before it can graduate from hypothosis to theory. Science has practical and theoretical application.
By that measure, Intelligent Design is not science nor is it based upon science. It is a sham - creationism under the guise of science.

I haven't seen the whole movie, but I've seen bits and pieces on youtube and fairly large segments of it at that. I understand the content and the intent and I've discussed this before with other people. I know the intelligent design arguement. There's nothing there of substance.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 28, 2011 at 1:19 am

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