Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 14, 2026, 2:46 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
The modal ontological argument for God
#6
RE: The modal ontological argument for God
Is the unicorn a necessary being? Then the argument works the same way. Is it not? Then the s5 theory of modal logic does not apply.

We could expand the statement for clarification - and we don't have to use gods. If an x is possibly necessary in any possible world..and the s5 theory of modal logic is true/applicable/informative...then the statement "x exists" is true in all possible worlds.

Plantinga would agree with the essence of your remarks, though, in that no one thinks the argument is compelling to anyone who doesn't already believe in gods.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply



Messages In This Thread
The modal ontological argument for God - by Disagreeable - August 6, 2024 at 9:16 am
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by Sheldon - August 6, 2024 at 9:44 am
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by Sheldon - August 6, 2024 at 10:52 am
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2024 at 10:59 am
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by Sheldon - August 6, 2024 at 12:17 pm
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by Paleophyte - August 6, 2024 at 10:49 pm
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by Sheldon - August 6, 2024 at 12:25 pm
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by brewer - August 6, 2024 at 4:45 pm
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by Nay_Sayer - August 6, 2024 at 5:05 pm
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by Deesse23 - August 7, 2024 at 1:17 am
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by Paleophyte - August 10, 2024 at 7:26 pm
RE: The modal ontological argument for God - by MetisX - August 10, 2024 at 8:57 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  An Argument Against Determinism Disagreeable 32 5044 March 13, 2026 at 9:11 pm
Last Post: Disagreeable
  The Kalam Cosmological Argument Disagreeable 123 30094 December 15, 2024 at 6:11 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  The classic ontological argument Modern Atheism 20 4850 October 3, 2024 at 12:45 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  The argument from degree LinuxGal 9 2567 January 1, 2023 at 12:14 am
Last Post: The Architect Of Fate
  Veridican Argument for the Existence of God The Veridican 14 5329 January 16, 2022 at 4:48 pm
Last Post: brewer
  [Serious] An Argument Against Hedonistic Moral Realism SenseMaker007 25 7469 June 19, 2019 at 7:21 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  [Serious] An Argument For Ethical Egoism SenseMaker007 29 8425 June 19, 2019 at 6:30 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Argument against Intelligent Design Jrouche 27 8269 June 2, 2019 at 5:04 pm
Last Post: Pat Mustard
  The argument from power. Mystic 67 17650 October 6, 2018 at 5:02 pm
Last Post: Astreja
  Ontological Disproof of God negatio 1042 271297 September 14, 2018 at 4:05 pm
Last Post: LadyForCamus



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)