RE: The modal ontological argument for God
August 6, 2024 at 1:43 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2024 at 1:51 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 6, 2024 at 1:32 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:Most people believe that things as a whole needn't be just the way they are. All other ways things could be or could have been are possible worlds.(August 6, 2024 at 9:16 am)Disagreeable Wrote: P1. If a god is possible it exists in every possible world
P2. If a god exists in every possible world then it would exist in this world as this world is possible
What does "every possible world" even mean? I only know of one world (universe).
Or are we also taking into account the imaginary worlds? Like if god exists in a novel or a video game this also means that he exists in the real world as well?
There is a possible world where I filled my cup with beer instead of gatorade - for example.
Gods existing as characters in novels or video games is a possible world, technically..our world - but in general the term is used to refer to other possible worlds. OFC, it's not a necessity of any possible world that they do...so, we couldn't go from characters to beings with modal logic that way. That would actually set up some comments on the neccessity of some kind of being in any world with video games and characters, though.
We could say that creators of novels are necessary in all possible worlds with characters in novels. Like this one..in which we conveniently do exist..and so the statement "humans exist" is true in all possible worlds - even those worlds in which humans do not exist. It would be completely rational for a being in such a possible world to believe that we didn't exist. The evidentiary case in their world would strongly back up that belief...but, nevertheless, that belief would be false.
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