Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

i'm not spinning it they really were treated as servants and in fact the bible often uses the word servant instead of slave. and why do you make things so black and white? things aren't black and white like that example: killing is wrong. what about for self defense? well i guess that's ok. what about for the defense of others? well that's ok too i guess. what if your a solder and your ordered to do it? well i guess that's fine too.

Yes, it does often use the term 'servent' but it also uses them synonymously with 'slave.' Whether you agree with me or not, the fact of the matter is that the bible does not condone slavery - otherwise known as the owning of another human being as property.
Further, I don't know where you're getting your facts from, but slaves in the bible are not required to be treated well. As the bible itself pointed out, they are money. Not people. MONEY.
I believe that it was the whole reason why a particular group of Jews decided to up and leave Egypt despite the Pharaoh's attempts to work around that. If I remember the story properly, I believe God murdered an entire city's firstborn children in cold blood in the process.

actually slaves had a chioce in the matter too. they could leave, but b/c they had their payment in advance they have to give a lot of that back they didn't earn. often times someone's family would buy them out of slavery so your claim is JUST FALSE. and like i said, they are paid as well but you don't listen to a word i say do u? it was even in your own source you first presented to me and yet you don't read your own source?

Really? You know this as a matter of fact? I wouldn't mind seeing the biblical passage about how slaves can leave their slavery at any point in time because for all my attempts otherwise, I can't find a single passage in the old or new testiment that
a) condemns slavery or
b) slaves are free to leave their slavery at any time

no that's a couple of days after you beat them. if they die a couple of days after beating, you can pretty much say they did not die from the beating. and just b/c you can spank a child doesn't mean your gonna do it all the time for no reason. and why would anyone maim their slave? what good would they be if they can't work? slaves were there to work, not to get beaten to satisfy the master. just b/c it's allowed doesn't mean it's regular if they do a good job then they are treated well. if they steal something on the job they can get beat for it.

You're comparing the brutal murder of a slave to the spanking of a child?
You're also missing the point - the bible not only says that slavery is fine, but it gives a how-to guide to treating and mistreating your property.
It also confirms that they are property. Your property.
Don't give me some ridiculous shpeel about how regular or irregular slave beatings are or how much business sense it makes. That's not the point of this discussion. The point is that the bible justifies and promotes the ownership of another human being and gives a clear how-to on beating and maiming them.

they weren't just play things. are you forgetting the part of the bible where it says love your wife? or is that taken for granted b/c you cannot comprehend what love is? women back then could not support themselves. this is why they lived with their parrents until they got married. this is why the parents decide who the daughter marries. this is how it's been not just in jewish society but in all societies b/c women could not take care of themselves until about 100 years ago when jobs started forming and possibilities opened up as children could go to school with dreams of being whatever they want to be rather than just following the family business. they didn't really have public schools back then people did what they were taught to do by their families.

Puh-lease. Women didn't have rights during the biblical times and like commandment #6, following the laws of God appear to be compulsory. They are frequently depicted as whores, deceitful, and other negative stereotypes.

do you honestly think that family would give him a cent after he violated their daughter? i'm telling you this was a very shameful act back in the day. you sure lay down some low fines but why don't i lay down some high ones. theft, assult, breaking and entering, arson etc. are those serious enough for ya? yes they include jail time too but again, they didn't have a lot of money to keep people in jails and support them for the rest of their days. hell if they had those back then a lot of people would want to go to jail it's free food. that's why they had the death penalty for a lot of things.

I'm extremely entertained how you state facts about life during bible times without quoting the bible.
At least, according to Genesis 34, rape is considered a crime against the man's (rapist's) honor - not against the woman.
How above Laviticus 19:20-22, where a man can rape a maid - the maid gets scourged, but the man isn't punished at all. The maid gets solice in that she isn't put to death.
How about Deuteronomy 22:23-24, where if a man rapes a betrothed virgin in the city, she has to die.

There are numerous examples, but these are some of them.
I'll also take this time to mention that marriage isn't defined as one man and one woman. It's always from the point of view of the man and he can have as many wives as he can afford, apparently.

wow does no one read what i put on there. IF ALL OF YOU HAVE TO TAKE WHAT I SAY OUT OF CONTEXT TO PROVE YOUR POINT THEN YOU HAVE NO POINT AT ALL. i already mentioned what i said to faith no more so just read what i said to him i'm not putting that quote out there again. and let me just make a little correction. he did not so much kill them as much as sentenced them to death and exicuted them. there happy? yes the bible supports the death penalty.

Bullshit. I didn't take your statements out of context. You stated that people can kill other people if they have a good reason.
Yet, god made ten commandments to be followed given that God is supposed to be the ultimate moral authority.
The sixth one states that YOU SHALL NOT MURDER.
NO MURDER. None. Zero. Zilch.

Not only does God not follow his own rules, he murders casually and usually only to prove a point and he allows handpicked people to murder casually as well. He has murdered men, women, and children numerous times and you can't tell me that when he decided to commit genocide against the entire human race in the story of Noah that every human being except Noah and his family were ALL EVIL or ALL SINFUL.

Even if they were committing crimes, it would be akin to rounding up every prisoner in the world, putting them on an island, and then detonating a nuclear weapon (or flooding the island - whichever you uprefer). Not just them, but also their families and children as well.
I'm being very lenient in that analogy because I'm assuming the victims were ALL CRIMINALS and their families. God murdered every human in the world except for a small handful.

i don't know what eyes you have but i've seen the opposite. i put some of these debates on here somewhere way back but people don't seam to care enough to watch them.

That's because those debates have been around a long time and most of us have seen and discussed them before and often with people who think intelligent design is a thing. I myself have been in at least a half dozen such debates since I joined - more if I include other scientific-sounding creationist conventions.

If you want to engage members here in an actual debate, it also makes good if you actually posit a debate and make a point vs. "look at this video - I think it's right. What do you think?" is not conductive to a debate.