RE: Russia and Ukraine
September 28, 2024 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2024 at 12:41 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(September 28, 2024 at 10:31 am)Leonardo17 Wrote:(September 23, 2024 at 9:30 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Not really, no. Himmler was a pagan mystic, but Hitler didn't practice any magic rituals or crap like that.
You seem to know about this issues more than I do. While the issue of Hitler’s involvement on Mystical belief systems is largely debated among historians, many important Nazi figures are known to be deep into this kind of stuff:
https://www.historynet.com/obsessed-with-the-occult/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occultism_in_Nazism
I’m currently reading that this is another feature of people with megalomania or narcissistic personality types. They are said to like the idea of getting ahead of everyone else through diabolic / new type of technologies that will allow them to get ahead of everyone else. The obsession of Nazis with ancient religious artifacts portrayed in the Indiana Jones where thus far from being invented. So while this is an open debate, I believe that Hitler too was largely involved in this kind of stuff because it was a popular thing in that era. The 30’ was the golden age of many magical societies (In Europe and North America), all sort of parapsychological “research”, and famous mediums communicating with the dead. I just read that Nazis even tried to resurrect their dead pilots at some point.
There really is no debate about Hitler's beliefs. Rather than read wikipedia, read John Toland's two-volume biography, and/or Shirer's history of the Third Reich. It's true that at the end of his life he was looking to astrology for answers to how Germany might stave off defeat, but that was such a minor portion of his life that it pales in comparison to his monotheistic beliefs. Even the Kurlander article you link acknowledges that Nazis persecuted paranormalists to, and quotes Hitler as saying"
Quote:“National Socialism is a cool and highly reasoned approach to reality based on the greatest of scientific knowledge and its spiritual expression,” Hitler had declared in 1938. “This philosophy does not advocate mystic cults, but rather aims to cultivate and lead a nation determined by its blood.”
The idea that Nazis were based on magical thinking is a misapprehension, probably inserted into modern misinformation by the Indiana Jones movie. Sure, some were pagan mystics. They were by far in the minority.
I'd like to see reputable sources for your claims herein, especially the attempted use of magic to resurrect pilots. I've been studying this stuff for forty years and have seen no mention of that, even in Williamson Murray's works. Note that by "reputable" I mean writers and researchers with established track records in the history of the Third Reich more along the lines of Kurlander than wiki.