(December 12, 2024 at 5:45 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Indeed(December 12, 2024 at 5:08 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: People doom themselves to hell when they choose to reject a place in God's presence, and yet again atheists struggle with even the most basic of concepts and think themselves master theologians.
Two problems fairly leap to mind:
1. Why does God knowingly create people who will reject him?
2. Why would God give people free will and then eternally damn them for using it?
People don’t doom themselves, me old china. God does it for them.
Boru
1. He can't create people without being 100% responsible for those people do especially in the role of and all knowing all powerful being
2. He can't be the author of freewill and not be 100% for any and every choice that was made with it especially in the role of and all knowing all powerful being
3. People cannot doom themselves for they were neither the authors of their own freewill nor did they create themselves nor did they create the rules only a being that did all that can bear any responsibility at all for how things went.
"Change was inevitable"
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM