RE: The historical Jesus--dead wrong, literally.
January 1, 2012 at 5:19 am
(This post was last modified: January 1, 2012 at 6:15 am by Barre.)
(December 7, 2011 at 7:57 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(December 7, 2011 at 7:50 pm)aleialoura Wrote: Where's the historical part? The book of old myths that you're quoting?
That's the hysterical part.
Um Stimbo, it seems that you are smugly triumphal. Would you agree?
(December 7, 2011 at 7:42 pm)Happy UnBeliever Wrote: Using the gMark to prove jesus ....its the worst thing you could have done...that and using the bible to prove itself another fallacy often attempted and failed by jesus followers..
Demonstrating "proof" is impossible when inductive reasoning is involved due to that fact that we deal with open data and the possiblity of new evidence being created. This confines one to assessing the merit of a thesis in terms of a scale of relative posiiblity:
-- virtually certain
-- highly probable
-- probable/improbable
-- highly unlikely
-- virtually impossible
Certainty or "proof" is epistomologically and rationally methodogically not an option.
(December 7, 2011 at 7:42 pm)Happy UnBeliever Wrote: Using the gMark to prove jesus ....its the worst thing you could have done...that and using the bible to prove itself another fallacy often attempted and failed by jesus followers..
Inductive reasoning inherently cannot produce "proof."
(December 14, 2011 at 4:27 am)houseofcantor Wrote: The gospels are straight fiction.
They are? Not a mixture of fact and fiction? How did you arrive at this conclusion?
That "why hast thou forsaken me" business is a psalm, regurgitated. I mean, layers of ridiculousness, right? It' all supposed to be "true word of god," yet half of the the words are all ritualistic and devoid of meaning...
As for myself, I contend that "Paul" existed, either as an individual or as a movement - and looking at the earliest footprints of Paul, when there's only one set of prints in the desert sand, those are the days when Paul is not hallucinating.
Scope this: For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: - I Thessalonians 2:14-16
How does YHWH do it in Job? Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. Job 1:6
That's right. The oldest scripture gets five lines into it before creating a villain; Paul waits to the second chapter in this, a rough draft for Romans. And Romans is the whole ball of wax.
