(January 12, 2025 at 1:34 pm)Istvan Wrote:(January 12, 2025 at 12:47 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm absolutely fine with people shitting on old gods and new gods, and if they decide to get all murdery about it that's just another thing to mock them for. The only privilege worth considering here is the privilege the religious appear to believe that they and they alone possess. Business as usual in our god-addled world.
Your self-congratulation is reaching escape velocity from what the rest of us call reality. Publishing bigoted cartoons to intimidate and demonize immigrants is a whole lot more morally problematic than "shitting on gods," and trying to characterize immigrant Muslim communities as some sort of privileged class in the West shows how little you know or care about power dynamics.
We must not forget that migrants chose to leave their countries and move to the West. There is a 5 million large Turkish community in Germany. Most of them are very well integrated and have no problem with the rest. But there is a group among them about which we like to say “They went with their wooden clogs (as in peasant image) and they came back with wooden clogs”.
Don’t get me wrong. Life in a foreign country is always difficult. You are actually leaving one world to start again in another world. And I understand the issues of local people too. Poorer people will always antagonize new-comers because they want to maintain their salaries and jobs. On the other hand, higher classes (especially in place like Germany where the economy is doing well) are mostly happy to have (for instance) a million extra Syrians to recruit in the lower paying jobs and other area where there is a shortage of workforce.
The third issue is: No one knows nothing about religion and spirituality. Most believers live in the illusion that their culture and their way of believing is simply the best and all others are s…ers.
Again: We all need to work on these issues.
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