RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
January 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm
(This post was last modified: January 1, 2012 at 11:49 pm by chi pan.)
Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:I did, a few posts above this one. Your "explanations" (i.e. apologetic rationalizations) are bullshit.
well i spoke that as long as they are treated human it's not wrong, and i stated that inequality will always exist in society. though everyone has the right to persue their dreams, that doesn't mean it will happen. there will always be a lower class doing work to make rich life possible. this was not addressed.
and i think i said that on a different thread btw
and i think i said that on a different thread btw
DarkestOfAngels Wrote:Unlike the Bible, US law makes room for 'technical' rape and perhaps the worst sort of rape you could imagine within the law - allowing sentencing to have a wide range of values depenidng upon the nature of the crime.
yes, but the problem with that is whoever has the better lawyer can get away with the most stuff.
[quoteDarkestOfAngels] No, Chip. It's not different at all. Before it was blacks, it was native americans in the US along with indentured servants from Europe. In Europe, there was all kinds of slavery from the surrounding nations and probably far more than I care to mention.
American slavery and treatment of black people is not unique at all.
If you need proof, feel free to do a cursory google search on the history of slavery. It's a rich topic. Go nuts.[/quote]
i'll acknowledge the Native American slavery as equal to that of black slavery though it was not popular b/c they could not endure as much as the black slaves could. they also died from a lot of European diseases.
it's not unique? is there any example of a common form of slavery that had such discrimination as the African American slavery?
DarkestOfAngels Wrote:The main distinction between regular slavery and sex slavery is that one is general purpose and one is slavery for a specific purpose.
yes but in the bible if you have sex with someone you must marry them. this is covered under the passage i referanced for rape punishment for virgins who were not betrothed. if they're your wife then they're not your slave and again, if such a thing is done it would be viewed as a very disgraceful thing.
DarkestOfAngels Wrote:A famous example is Thomas Jefferson, whose black children have been quite prolific since they were discovered to be his descendants.
yes well Thomas Jefferson also wanted to marry his slave, but he was advised against it. that was not at all popular back then.
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Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem