RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
January 2, 2012 at 1:42 am
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2012 at 1:43 am by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(January 2, 2012 at 1:27 am)chipan Wrote: agreed that it is not perfect and that it is more just. i don't agree that it is morally better. many laws are very morally wrong which if i mention i'm sure it would start a political debate.Some "morally wrong" laws don't make the bible morally better overall than the US justice system - asshat lawyers and politicians nonwithstanding.
(January 2, 2012 at 1:27 am)chipan Wrote: same one that says some murders are more heinous than others. don't you agree?Murder? yes. Slavery? no.
There are no circumstances in which slavery can be justified. You can't "enslave" someone in self defense.
(January 2, 2012 at 1:27 am)chipan Wrote: yes, and this was wrong which is why God set them free. it never calls this kind of slavery good.Except that he has also allowed moses and his armies to take slaves and wives from fallen enemies. He never outright says that slavery is necessarily bad either - but he isn't opposed to it and he even gives instructions on how to go about it.
Sounds to me like he just likes some humans more than others - allowing one group to escape slavery to fufill a purpose but he wasn't necessarily opposed to the general treatment of slaves outside of family and certain specific groups.j
Otherwise, it's open season.
(January 2, 2012 at 1:27 am)chipan Wrote: yes, but the difference between slaves and wives is that God commands husbands to love their wives.That doesn't really make them less property in treatment or otherwise.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
