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Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
(January 2, 2012 at 2:10 am)chipan Wrote:
TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:Murder? yes. Slavery? no.

why the double standard? murder is thought to be more heinous than slavery and yet there are different degrees of it. are some types of slavery not more wrong than others?
It isn't a double standard. Those are two seporate crimes against humanity.
Murder is only occasionally acceptable in VERY specific circumstance.
There is no acceptable version of slavery. The closest you could argue to be acceptable slavery is prison.
However, unlike slavery, even prisoners (ALL prisoners) have defined rights and a defined sentence that they can live out and leave once over except in cases of a life sentence or death penalty.
The bible cherry picks these rights for specific individuals essentially based on groups of people god feels shouldn't be slaves (in other words, family, countrymen, and god's cronies. The rest get whatever they get.

(January 2, 2012 at 2:10 am)chipan Wrote: this is something i'll look into more to get the whole story. thank you for challenging my faith.
That's what I do.

(January 2, 2012 at 2:10 am)chipan Wrote: well they cannot be sold as property. it discourages physical punishment (why would you beat someone you love? and how does that show your love?). it puts them on more equal ground as a wife is not a servant and they aren't commanded to obey their husbands. it makes the husband care more about the person if she's his wife.

Why would a loving husband beat his wife? I don't know as I'm the last person who would ever do such a thing, but ... they do and they still claim to love their wife.
All the bible does is force a woman into a life with a man that has 100% of the power in the relationship and virtually all of the rights. (Keep in mind that the bible does not confer women with any real power anywhere in the bible compared to men.
Compound this with the "marry your rapist" part of the bible and try to see where the woman might be in terms of happiness with her husband.
"Not getting beaten" and "not being sold into worse slavery" is littl solace compared to being married to someone who is only married to you because he forced himself on you.
I'm sure most marriages were happier than that, but women basicaly have no rights in the bible.
On that note, see the movie "The Duchess" to get an idea of this kind of marriage in a posh 18th(?) century marriage between two wealthy families.
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RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 2, 2012 at 3:20 am

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