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The Issue of Migration
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The Issue of Migration
In 2022 alone some 22,000 were naturalized as German citizens. The Number of Germans with Turkish roots is estimated to be around 3,000,000. The number of Syrians is close to one million. The Number of Ukrainians is about 1,2 million. The Number of Russians and Poles is also about 1 million each.
 
Many other groups can be added to that. But the part of ethnic Germans is still at 75%. In comparison only 2,2 percent of the population are of foreign origin. So this is seen as a problem by some. Especially if you are poor. There are people in Germany who are homeless, are looking for the cheapest way to buy groceries, are living with money that is given to them by the government (because they are unable or unwilling to work etc.).
 
So the populist drive that feeds on the social conflict is not just empty words. It is understandable that people in developed nations are becoming increasingly wary of these movements of population.
 
But I don’t believe they are seeing the whole picture. Even in my country (Turkey) there are now jobs that local ethnic groups are simply not willing to do. In the 2000’s or even in the first half of the 2010’s it was possible to get domestic aid at affordable prices. You would just ask your friend and/or neighbor and would know someone who knows someone who would come and work in your house some 7-8 hours and be happy to do so (at least in this neighborhood).
 
Right now we are turning to social media etc. that has Uber like platforms where you would supposedly be able to get the professional help you need but that’s not the perfect solution either. So rich people here are hiring Moldovan or Pilipino or other people from Slavic countries or Georgia to do the house work. The times have changed. Locals just won’t do these jobs anymore like they used to.
 
And in countries like Spain: Suppose you have an orchard with apples or Cherries etc. I’ve heard you can hardly find any Spanish citizens who are willing to work seasonally under the sun. The same thing is happening in the UK. They are hiring Bulgarians, Romanians or South-East Asians to do these seasonal works.
 
So I am not saying that borders should not exist. But “liberal” governments would not have allowed any migrant workforce in any country if there was not an obvious need for this workforce in any and all of these countries.
 
Also: The 22,000 naturalized Turkish workforce in Germany are almost entirely qualified workforce (doctors, engineers, or people with a University degree in areas that are needed by the German economy).
 
In fact my point is that these waves of migration are unfair to countries of origins with all the smart people leaving and all the dumbasses left behind who constantly vote for political İslamist or other populist political parties. Smile
 
Which is why most of these migrants want to keep their Turkish pass. Just to come back and vote whenever there are elections in the country.
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The Issue of Migration - by Leonardo17 - June 20, 2025 at 10:33 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by The Grand Nudger - June 20, 2025 at 10:26 pm
RE: The Issue of Migration - by Deesse23 - June 21, 2025 at 1:29 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by Deesse23 - June 21, 2025 at 1:33 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by Charlie Boy - June 21, 2025 at 4:28 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by arewethereyet - June 21, 2025 at 5:05 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 21, 2025 at 5:11 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by Deesse23 - June 21, 2025 at 8:58 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 22, 2025 at 5:10 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by zebo-the-fat - June 22, 2025 at 6:40 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 22, 2025 at 7:04 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by zebo-the-fat - June 22, 2025 at 11:15 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by Belacqua - June 22, 2025 at 7:56 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2025 at 9:53 am
RE: The Issue of Migration - by Leonardo17 - July 30, 2025 at 10:58 am

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