Failed prophecy in the bible if one cares to look

[Angrboda]

Of course we’re not discussing ancient Tyre in the modern sense - why would we? But ‘nation’ in the ancient sense can also mean ‘city’ or ‘tribe’ (as in the Twelve ‘Nations’ of Israel. 

Tyre was a city then, it’s a city now. Prophecy failed. Get over it.

Boru

Every detail of the prophecy against Tyre came through, including how the destruction would occur:


"This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, 'Here I am against you, O Tyre, and I will bring up against you many nations, just as the sea brings up its waves. And they will certainly bring the walls of Tyre to ruin and tear down her towers, and I will scrape her dust away from her and make her a shining, bare surface of a crag. . . . And your stones and your woodwork and your dust they will place in the very midst of the water."—Ezekiel 26:3, 4, 12


CONFIRMATION OF TYRE'S DESTRUCTION:

"A 19th-century traveler commented on what was left of ancient Tyre in his day, saying: "Of the original Tyre known to Solomon and the prophets of Israel, not a vestige remains except in its rock-cut sepulchres on the mountain sides, and in foundation walls . . . Even the island, which Alexander the Great, in his siege of the city, converted into a cape by filling up the water between it and the mainland, contains no distinguishable relics of an earlier period than that of the Crusades. The modern town, all of which is comparatively new, occupies the northern half of what was once the island, while nearly all the remainder of the surface is covered with undistinguishable ruins."" (Sources: JW.ORG and Encyclopedia Britannica)
https://www.britannica.com/place/Tyre


FYI:  I've had this conversation with atheists at other websites who, unable to overcome the accurate fulfillment of the prophecy against Tyre, are reduced to cherry-picking the single portion of the prophecy that they imagine will support their skepticism: the portion where it says Tyre will never be rebuilt.  The reality is that Tyre, as a Nation, was never rebuilt.  In its place today stands a district with the same name.  A district and a nation are two entirely different things.


That said, I am removing myself from this thread as I obviously will not win an argument with a moderator. 

This is one detail that was definitely incorrect. Alexander built a causeway to the island by dumping the material from the mainland portion of Tyre, but he never placed the stones and woodwork of the island city into the sea, as once the obstacle that the sea presented was no longer a problem given the existence of his causeway, there would have been no point. That morons like our friend here think that, after building his causeway, and conquering the city, Alexander proceeded to have his men tear down the buildings and toss them into the sea. Only a complete idiot finds that a reasonable conjecture.

The Tyre prophecy is shot through with multiple failures, starting with the idea that Nebuchaddnezzar would seize Tyre -- it never happened.



The details have been thoroughly discussed and shown to be in error as prophecy. The only people who defend the Tyre prophecy are people who can't stomach the bible not being literally true from end to end. Defenders of the Tyre prophecy are nutjobs who cherry-pick this or that detail, while ignoring the details where the prophecy failed. You have to be crazy or stupid to defend this prophecy.

And it's really beyond pointless, as there is an argument concerning prophecy that says that it need not be fulfilled to be valid prophecy. The argument is that if a prophecy of destruction failed to come to pass, it's because the actors involved heeded the warning and amended their behavior, thus obviating the need for the punishment prophesied. Biblical apologetics is filled with this sort of "heads I win, tails you lose" logic. All it shows is how gullible believers can be.