RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
Yesterday at 4:40 am
(This post was last modified: Yesterday at 4:50 am by Deesse23.)
I am shocked, but not too much surprised.
Firstoff i find it .....interesting how similar the rise of fascism is, although the time and situation is so different from Europe in the 1920, including the notion by parts of the population that its going to be a "passing storm". Damn, i bet historians are having a field day these days. So much to observe, so much to directly learn. I am not much surprised that so few americans dont act. They are well off, domestically as well as much as foreign relations. The richest country in the world, the most powerful military in the world....all that jazz. Of course a lot of people have no fear...why would they? Nothing ever has gone wrong substantially, especially if you are part of this particular privileged minority that ruled for the past 200 years.
If you ever wondered (and we know people did all the time during the past 100y) how a nation like Germany could slip into fascism, just look at the USA. I would estimate that 3/4 of all of the individual psychology, social dynamics, etc. from back then does apply to now, minus of course the political and economic situation of the country at hand. Those seem to play not a role at all. Thats the part i guess all the historians are currently surprised about (i am!). After all we were told that it was this what led Germany to become fascist.
This really seems to be all about human psychology (individual and group related), and much less about actual political and economic situation. I would love to have some professional historian elaborate on this. Anyone maybe has a link or two? I am sure this is discussed amongst historians already.
Having said this, i am looking at the "270 to win" polls and stats, and it seems clear (once again, just like in the early 1930s), that there will be no way back for the US, but the speed rather increasing. Just like in the 1930s, (too) many people seem to be drunk by fascism, once its entrenched, they actually seem to like it.....until its themselves who get picked up by ICE-stapo, of course.
Firstoff i find it .....interesting how similar the rise of fascism is, although the time and situation is so different from Europe in the 1920, including the notion by parts of the population that its going to be a "passing storm". Damn, i bet historians are having a field day these days. So much to observe, so much to directly learn. I am not much surprised that so few americans dont act. They are well off, domestically as well as much as foreign relations. The richest country in the world, the most powerful military in the world....all that jazz. Of course a lot of people have no fear...why would they? Nothing ever has gone wrong substantially, especially if you are part of this particular privileged minority that ruled for the past 200 years.
If you ever wondered (and we know people did all the time during the past 100y) how a nation like Germany could slip into fascism, just look at the USA. I would estimate that 3/4 of all of the individual psychology, social dynamics, etc. from back then does apply to now, minus of course the political and economic situation of the country at hand. Those seem to play not a role at all. Thats the part i guess all the historians are currently surprised about (i am!). After all we were told that it was this what led Germany to become fascist.
This really seems to be all about human psychology (individual and group related), and much less about actual political and economic situation. I would love to have some professional historian elaborate on this. Anyone maybe has a link or two? I am sure this is discussed amongst historians already.
Having said this, i am looking at the "270 to win" polls and stats, and it seems clear (once again, just like in the early 1930s), that there will be no way back for the US, but the speed rather increasing. Just like in the 1930s, (too) many people seem to be drunk by fascism, once its entrenched, they actually seem to like it.....until its themselves who get picked up by ICE-stapo, of course.
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