RE: The School Shooting in Minneapolis (and the Issue of Gun-Control in the US)
August 29, 2025 at 11:17 am
(This post was last modified: August 29, 2025 at 11:20 am by Leonardo17.)
Arewethereyet:
There are all sorts of house safety systems now. Unless you live in a very isolated area, the police will probably get to you in 10-20 minutes time maximum. Texas is not South Africa.
Even so: You are a sane person. If you are in a risky situation, the government should grant you a permit for a given number of weapons to be used within a definite framework.
In the US you cannot have alcohol before the age of 21. But you can get an M-16 at the age of 18 provided that you have the money to pay for it.
BrianSoddinBoru4:
This is something I have debated a lot in the religion part of this forum. When you read the constitution (or a sacred text) you need to understand the logic behind it. People like T. Jefferson believed that a permanent army would not be necessary in the newly founded United States of America. They thought they local militias would be enough if a new attack on their sovereignty ever happened.
+ What they are saying in the second amendment is basically: “You have the right to resist with weapons if the government becomes so corrupt that it has become a method of oppression”.
Many other democratic countries are also very open to similar ideas.
What is happening now is the NRA willing to keep making money from weapons that in most cases are staying in somebody’s garage without ever being used and occasionally end up in the hands of psychopaths, like the Las Vegas Shooting in 2017:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting
In this case the man brought 24 firearms into the hotel without anyone even realizing.
How did this guy manage to acquire so many weapons without anyone realizing. Even the D. Trump shooter last year was some mentally disturbed kid who should be somewhere else doing his teenager stuff instead of playing with assault weapons.
- As I said. These are not toys. Think of it like a car. A car is also not a toy. If you want to race it or do dangerous stuff with it, there are special areas for that. Or else, you go to a desert area, do all the crazy stuff you feel like doing. Then, when you are back in the city, you drive safely, you don’t even shout to other people for what they do.
So if someone wants to shoot for sports that is fine with me too. I know people with limited income who have a shooting range membership. They go there, be as much “Tango and Cash” as they want. Then they leave the guns there and go on with their normal lives.
The NRA fighting regulations in the US is very similar to the trial of tobacco companies in the 1990’s. For those of you who don’t know: Back in those years the main tobacco companies where trying to convince the general public that “there was no proof that linked tobacco consumption to cancer” (which was a complete lie of course). And today, they are trying to stitch to selling E-cigarettes and vaping machines to their customer bases who no longer see cigarette as something trendy or cool.
To this I may add that almost all the weapons that are currently in the hands of Haitian gangs are also coming from the USA.
So yes: There has to be more regulations and I don’t think it is anti-capitalist to say that. No other country in the developed world has so few regulations on the ownership of lethal weapons by ordinary citizens.
There are all sorts of house safety systems now. Unless you live in a very isolated area, the police will probably get to you in 10-20 minutes time maximum. Texas is not South Africa.
Even so: You are a sane person. If you are in a risky situation, the government should grant you a permit for a given number of weapons to be used within a definite framework.
In the US you cannot have alcohol before the age of 21. But you can get an M-16 at the age of 18 provided that you have the money to pay for it.
BrianSoddinBoru4:
This is something I have debated a lot in the religion part of this forum. When you read the constitution (or a sacred text) you need to understand the logic behind it. People like T. Jefferson believed that a permanent army would not be necessary in the newly founded United States of America. They thought they local militias would be enough if a new attack on their sovereignty ever happened.
+ What they are saying in the second amendment is basically: “You have the right to resist with weapons if the government becomes so corrupt that it has become a method of oppression”.
Many other democratic countries are also very open to similar ideas.
What is happening now is the NRA willing to keep making money from weapons that in most cases are staying in somebody’s garage without ever being used and occasionally end up in the hands of psychopaths, like the Las Vegas Shooting in 2017:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting
In this case the man brought 24 firearms into the hotel without anyone even realizing.
How did this guy manage to acquire so many weapons without anyone realizing. Even the D. Trump shooter last year was some mentally disturbed kid who should be somewhere else doing his teenager stuff instead of playing with assault weapons.
- As I said. These are not toys. Think of it like a car. A car is also not a toy. If you want to race it or do dangerous stuff with it, there are special areas for that. Or else, you go to a desert area, do all the crazy stuff you feel like doing. Then, when you are back in the city, you drive safely, you don’t even shout to other people for what they do.
So if someone wants to shoot for sports that is fine with me too. I know people with limited income who have a shooting range membership. They go there, be as much “Tango and Cash” as they want. Then they leave the guns there and go on with their normal lives.
The NRA fighting regulations in the US is very similar to the trial of tobacco companies in the 1990’s. For those of you who don’t know: Back in those years the main tobacco companies where trying to convince the general public that “there was no proof that linked tobacco consumption to cancer” (which was a complete lie of course). And today, they are trying to stitch to selling E-cigarettes and vaping machines to their customer bases who no longer see cigarette as something trendy or cool.
To this I may add that almost all the weapons that are currently in the hands of Haitian gangs are also coming from the USA.
So yes: There has to be more regulations and I don’t think it is anti-capitalist to say that. No other country in the developed world has so few regulations on the ownership of lethal weapons by ordinary citizens.
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