(July 25, 2025 at 10:40 pm)GrandizerII Wrote: Here lies the challenge with understanding prophetic books in the Old Testament (like Ezekiel). You frequently see a mixture of verses meant to be taken figuratively and verses meant to be taken literally, and even sometimes both simultaneously.
This. Genre is all.
The problem goes away when you realise that it’s meant to be rhetorical exaggeration rather than precise legal text. Tyre has been mashed from what it was, which is what was meant in Ezekiel.
(June 21, 2025 at 10:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: "Jesus fulfilled all the biblical prophecies!"
"The Jews say he didn't and they're THEIR prophecies!"
Not sure about that. The earliest church were all Jews. The prophecies came true, not in the way everyone was expecting, but certainly within C1 Jewish belief on these things. Those who saw the resurrected Jesus, saw prophecy fulfilled.
Don’t forget that Jews thinking of going down the Jesus route had to accept the abandonment of Torah, gentiles within God’s people, and heavy aggression from their community.
