US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)

[Ivan Denisovich]

- You are not wrong on this. Yet: Why are the Muslim nations of the region so silly (as a general rule). Almost all of them are some sort of rogue state and Saudi Arabian States are all backward monarchies. And the population is generally uneducated, poor and miserable. In the 60’s and 70’s there was this Arab republican nationalism that aimed to rebuild these nations after decades of colonialism. But it didn’t work (for this or that reason: I am not so sure). So what do you do if you are a tiny state right in the middle of such countries that are all hostile to your very existence?

You're racist or just some dumb tool?

Were I this particular tiny country  I would try to not start my existence with ethnic cleansing (Nakba). These tend to piss people off.
 

So I agree with the need to stop Israel at some point. And it’s probably the US who is going to do that.

israel will be stopped by the same USA that just went to war on it's behalf?

But on the issue of Iran, there are contradicting voices even in the typical left-wing media. Some call it a huge mistake by D. Trump. Yet other (like me) are still seeing the facts. If the Strait of Hormuz is so important, you need to have a logical actor in that part of the world. The other option is to comply to the folly of those who control that water way and I don’t see how this can be an option

Leo the far sighted analyst.    You don't know most basic facts about anything and whatever facts you're imagining to see are just your delusion.

Neither israel nor US under current regime are logical actor.

You are not entirely wrong. But the USSR sent the first cosmonaut, woman and animal and artificial satellite to space. The ISS is based on US-Russian (Soviet) scientific collaboration. They invented modules that would be added to one another once out of the atmosphere.

I'm not wrong at all. It's you who don't know shit about inhuman regime and thus praise it for superficial achievements while ignoring its cruelty. You tend to ignore cruelty a lot in fact. Seems to me that you're "might make right" type with zero empathy.
 

Yes, Under Stalin there were more than 20 million deaths (executions, gulags, famine and WWII) and Lenin did not fare much better than him.

I won't bother with searching for real numbers but assuming you believe one you cited does them not make you uncomfortable? Because your tone certainly isn't one that I would take when discussing genocidal regime failures.
 

But they still did not start WWIII during the missile crisis. In fact they did everything to avoid it. I also remember of the nuclear non-proliferation treaties etc. The Soviets were trustworthy once you had a treaty with them.

They helped to start WWII which you curiously avoid to acknowledge. SU had some achievements like allowing divorces or giving access to abortion (it was int the first years of regime under Lenin) but they're vastly overshadowed by it's crimes, genocide included. You understand what genocide means? Holodomor alone means that Soviet leadership and security services would be condemned to lowest circle of Dante Hell as ones who betrayed humanity but you make googly eyes at it cause of first astronaut. You disgust me.

If Iran was in command during the Cuban missile crisis what do you think would have happened?

Some Iranian chick dumped you? You're racist? Or you hate Iran blindly because regimes you love fellating tell you so?
 

This is why I have this extra dislike for the current Russian regime. They lack the rational element that the USSR had somehow.

Soviets arrested and killed thousands because of imagined spies. Where was this rational element then? Perhaps read a book or two before you make an idiot of yourself.
 

Iran has or had a nuclear program. And it’s not just Netanyahu. All Israelis interviewed on TV are mentioning 1) missiles that are being sent from Iran or from its proxies 2) 60% enriched Uranium which is way above the need for civilian / energy usage.
 
/These are the facts.

israel have nuclear weapon and it's guilty of genocide. These are facts. As for misiles well, such tend to happen when you attack another country.
 

Populist does not equal fascists. Populist are people who want to be fascists but usually the population sees through them and stops them before they can become real fascists. Don’t you agree?

I don't agree because I have an actual education. Populist is just term that is in vogue now with talking heads. I find fascists, authoritarians or illiberals to be far better descriptors.
 

That’s because international world order is still at its infancy. We poor humans still do not have a Society of Nations that are capable of punishing such wrongdoers, in this case, Netanyahu. But there is still an arrest warrant on him. And he should be judged. But it’s the same in Iran. Did you read about these soccer player girls in Australia? Is threatening teenager with the lives of their families in line with international law?

You compare soccer girls to genocide you clueless clown? You don't have any sense of proportion in this empty head of yours.
 

So you need to understand redneck / right wing people better. Sometimes, in life too, you need to find your own solutions. But I said “sometimes”. As the human race we should hold on to our institutions so maybe next time we won’t need strong figure to solve this kind of problem for us. Because that’s what we are doing. We are saying “Oh I hate you! I hate you so much!” while expecting them to solve things for us. And this is what makes them strong. Not the fact that they are wannabe fascists

If I will want two bit sociological analysis from ignoramus I will be sure to give you a call.
 

What would you do if Tichuana was filled with the posters of the perpetrators of 9/11. And not for a week or so, but for decades? What do you think would eventually happen?

I wouldn't have bombed it but I'm not scum or apologist for warmongering, genocidal regime.