Awty + Fireball + Thumpalumpagus:
/ But what we know as “The opposition” can also make serious mistakes and in some cases that opposition can be wrong and the MAGA people can be right.
Ivan Denisovich:
- I don’t really like your choice of words. I will give some shorter answers. You seem to be tired too
“Some Iranian chick dumped you? You're racist? Or you hate Iran blindly because regimes you love fellating tell you so?”
- I meant that Iran would not have backed down at the Cuba missile crisis. They would have started WWIII already (because they think they would go to paradise for that)
“He also have sympathy for totalitarian left. You're writing about dude who ignores SU crimes (genocide and Ribbentrop-Molotov pact included) and praises it for rationality and first astronaut in space. It appears to me that living under this turkey cunt of authoritarian erased any traces of empathy from him.”
- I think you are misjudging me. It’s just that I maintain a degree of critical mindset at all time. Many of you seem to be rather worried about the MAGA movement. I also have my dose of worries about my own authoritarian government. But as I said, populist leader can sometimes be right and the opposition movement can sometimes be wrong.
We may discuss the USSR in future posts but you will have to watch your mouth a little. We cannot have an intellectual discussion if you decide to lose your temper like this.
- Communist regimes in the world tended to be very corrupt from the beginning. Lenin + Stalin + Mao were people who were ready to sacrifice people in order to erase all traces of the previous feudal social order and create something new: a modern socialist society.
Personally I don’t like Trotsky that much. But I know about the friction between Trotcsyism and Stalinism. I also know about the Prague Revolt in 68 and how this all ended in a bloodbath.
And I and still a fan of Che Guevara and the Cuban revolution for instance. Yet, history made it so that those who remember the Batista era in Cuba are nostalgic of that era. And modern socialism has huge issues. I liked Hugo Chavez for instance but look how it all ended.
/ Still you cannot say that Communism is not a part of Human History and that communists did now achieve anything in this world. If they did nothing, they defeated fascism. Doesn’t that count for anything?
- As a specie we like experimenting stuff. Sometimes we have to try things and it simply does not work. That’s how I see communism. + I believe that a more equalitarian society will be possible in the future. I believe in universal healthcare + free education and other socialist approaches like that (while still believing in democratic values, secularism and supremacy of law).
/ So I would advise you to not misinterpret some of the things that I write in this forum.
/ All of this was to say that the Soviets were still a rational element. Just like today’s China if you want. I mean you can talk to them when you have to and you can find solutions by simply talking to them.
Now it was D. Trump who walked away from the nuclear deal with Iran. So all of this is basically his fault yes. But this isn’t 2018. We’re in 2026. We need to find solutions to today’s issues. Right now we have no nuclear deal with Iran since 8 years and they already have 60% enriched Uranium already.
Besides Iran was a more rational element in the 2010’s. It seems to me that they are getting even more fanatical as the years are passing.
But Let’s discuss this OK? I’m still far from being a Brainiac who has all the solutions. If you have better ideas to fix this current madness you should share them and I may simply agree.
All I am saying is that The Europeans simply watched when Milosevic was murdering Bosnian Muslims in Ex-Yugoslavia. And at some point, the US decided to move in and together with NATO + UN they stopped the genocide.
If I am correct most people here believe that this is different: So explain yourselves. Maybe you are right and I am wrong
- No I’m with you in your anti-Trump posture. I don’t like populists. Populists are people who don’t believe in equality who think they and their entourage should come before everyone else. Which is why I believe that D. Trump must have been involved in the Epstein files at least to some degree. And I also do not believe in the suicide of G. Epstein.
/ But what we know as “The opposition” can also make serious mistakes and in some cases that opposition can be wrong and the MAGA people can be right.
Ivan Denisovich:
- I don’t really like your choice of words. I will give some shorter answers. You seem to be tired too
“Some Iranian chick dumped you? You're racist? Or you hate Iran blindly because regimes you love fellating tell you so?”
- I meant that Iran would not have backed down at the Cuba missile crisis. They would have started WWIII already (because they think they would go to paradise for that)
“He also have sympathy for totalitarian left. You're writing about dude who ignores SU crimes (genocide and Ribbentrop-Molotov pact included) and praises it for rationality and first astronaut in space. It appears to me that living under this turkey cunt of authoritarian erased any traces of empathy from him.”
- I think you are misjudging me. It’s just that I maintain a degree of critical mindset at all time. Many of you seem to be rather worried about the MAGA movement. I also have my dose of worries about my own authoritarian government. But as I said, populist leader can sometimes be right and the opposition movement can sometimes be wrong.
We may discuss the USSR in future posts but you will have to watch your mouth a little. We cannot have an intellectual discussion if you decide to lose your temper like this.
- Communist regimes in the world tended to be very corrupt from the beginning. Lenin + Stalin + Mao were people who were ready to sacrifice people in order to erase all traces of the previous feudal social order and create something new: a modern socialist society.
Personally I don’t like Trotsky that much. But I know about the friction between Trotcsyism and Stalinism. I also know about the Prague Revolt in 68 and how this all ended in a bloodbath.
And I and still a fan of Che Guevara and the Cuban revolution for instance. Yet, history made it so that those who remember the Batista era in Cuba are nostalgic of that era. And modern socialism has huge issues. I liked Hugo Chavez for instance but look how it all ended.
/ Still you cannot say that Communism is not a part of Human History and that communists did now achieve anything in this world. If they did nothing, they defeated fascism. Doesn’t that count for anything?
- As a specie we like experimenting stuff. Sometimes we have to try things and it simply does not work. That’s how I see communism. + I believe that a more equalitarian society will be possible in the future. I believe in universal healthcare + free education and other socialist approaches like that (while still believing in democratic values, secularism and supremacy of law).
/ So I would advise you to not misinterpret some of the things that I write in this forum.
/ All of this was to say that the Soviets were still a rational element. Just like today’s China if you want. I mean you can talk to them when you have to and you can find solutions by simply talking to them.
Now it was D. Trump who walked away from the nuclear deal with Iran. So all of this is basically his fault yes. But this isn’t 2018. We’re in 2026. We need to find solutions to today’s issues. Right now we have no nuclear deal with Iran since 8 years and they already have 60% enriched Uranium already.
Besides Iran was a more rational element in the 2010’s. It seems to me that they are getting even more fanatical as the years are passing.
But Let’s discuss this OK? I’m still far from being a Brainiac who has all the solutions. If you have better ideas to fix this current madness you should share them and I may simply agree.
All I am saying is that The Europeans simply watched when Milosevic was murdering Bosnian Muslims in Ex-Yugoslavia. And at some point, the US decided to move in and together with NATO + UN they stopped the genocide.
If I am correct most people here believe that this is different: So explain yourselves. Maybe you are right and I am wrong
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