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Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole
(January 8, 2012 at 2:35 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Regardless of that, they don't support his speculation that light might have traveled faster in the past - unless he's further implying that there's something fundamentally different about the matter in interstellar/intergalactic space now vs. then.

Precisely - I poitned out elsewhere that the speed of light is also used in the equation of E=MC^2 - so if the speed of light is variable over time, then the nature of all matter of energy changes over time - which means that the universe could not have formed as it did and all of physics both of the very small and very large (quantum and astro) would be meaningless given that our calculations of the history of the earth and the universe all involve E=MC^2 in some form or another.

That equation alone is practically the difference between now and 19th century science, technology, and understanding.
Even if things like tacheyons exist in the universe (imporbable but not impossible), then that doesn't change the fact that light not only must be constant for our sake, but it is foundational to the underlying mechanics of all matter and energy.

A universe in which C can be variable cannot be our universe.
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RE: Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 8, 2012 at 2:48 am

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