US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Belaqua:
 

“Some people fantasize that once Trump is gone the US will once again bloom as a moral exemplar for the ages. Ha. America's support for Israel is bi-partisan and increasing. It doesn't matter that more and more citizens have a negative view of Israel -- the government and the media are still rock solid. A lot of Americans are still in denial about this. They somehow think that Israel is a rogue nation that America would like to leash. But that's not going to happen with anything like our current government.
 
So with America as the bi-partisan weapons supplier to genocide, the idea of its government ever asserting moral authority again is laughable. Iran is currently doing better than America in that regard, since it's the only country standing up to Israel's expansion of the genocide into Lebanon.”

 
- I don’t agree with that. I also happen to live in a country that has huge issues on democracy. But Iran is (and has always been) on a whole different level of authoritarianism. And I would say that with North Korea too. China has traditionally been opposed to North Korean nuclear weapons. But now they are turning a blind eye. And I don’t think this is ok. There has to be a global balance and that balance has to be maintained. You cannot reward Iran for threatening neutral countries with drones and missiles.
 
/And I won’t be a hypocrite and say that the Israel issue is different. There are currently many EU states who are raising their voice against Israel’s genocidal policies. Even D. Trump is lashing at Netanyahu from time to time. So again: Is this the 21st century or is this the Caribbean islands in the 1600’s?
 

“In the long run China is the winner here, as in nearly everything else.”

 
- Chinese are very clever. Not only did they build significant fossil fuel reserves that are ready to be used for months in the case of a disruption of their supply but they are using Marxist models to boost their EV and solar panel and wind turbine production.
 
But my vote will still go to Pakistan and other Middle Eastern negotiators (including the East Roman Empire):
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/economy/po...58774.html
 
- Yes this cease-fire is very fragile and we don’t know if it is going to hold. But I want to salute these diplomatic efforts that were carried out in February. These are very similar to mediation efforts between Russia and Ukraine. The only difference here is that there is no party that is disconnected from reality in this conflict. Even I have to recognize that Iranians are still smart enough to recognize that continuing the conflict is not in their interest.
 
So we will have to wait and see I guess.
 
BrianSoddingBoru:
 

“LOL, since when? Morality seems like it would actually be inimical to achieving or maintaining superpower status.”

 
- I’ve heard in TV that D. Trump’s “unpredictable” behavior is based on Richard Nixon’s “Madman theory” in which the president is basically saying “Hold me down or someone is going to get hurt!”. The only problem with this approach is that it becomes counterproductive when it becomes your default way of behavior.  
 
/So no: I believe in Joe Biden’s “America is back” approach more than that. It is true that competition pushes people to be more inventive and more productive but if you looks at mankind’s greatest achievements you can see that almost all of them are based on a collaborative approach (Like the ISS in the 1990’s for instance / The ISS is / was a truly great achievement for us. Not some temporary madness like the one that belongs to the world’s first Trilionaire   )

Help me out here, Leo: what does your response to me have to do with your claim that superpowers need to establish themselves as moral entities?

Boru