BrianSoddingBoru:
I mean when Joe Biden was elected in 2020, one of the first things he said is “America is back”. In the US there are isolationists who think that the US has nothing to do (for instance) with the situation in the Middle East, there are more progressive American who believe that the US is “The Big Guy on the Block” (Barrack Obama’s word). Both of these are “moral” approaches as well. Let me remind you that the US has joined WWI and WWII “To Protect Democracy and Human Rights”.
All major powers have this moral code: For Emperor Constantine it was “One God one Emperor” for Ottomans it was Islam (17th century Islam not Al-Qaida Islam
), For the Soviet it was “The liberation of the Proletariat”, for colonial powers it was the “Mission Civilisatrice”.
/ D. Trump has no such issue. He wants to win the votes of his isolationist base by leaving:
Let’s not fool ourselves:
- He simply left Afghanistan.
- He just left Ukraine to itself.
- Now he is simply leaving Iran and the whole Middle East. The Iranians know that so they won’t give him nothing:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trum...57610.html
Above is the Memorandum of understanding.
Everyone knows he doesn’t give a …. So if you were Iran would you give him anything at all? Everyone (including Netanyahu) Knows that he is leaving anyway.
So that’s what it is. This is not hubris or stupidity. This is a man who doesn’t care.
The Grand Nudger:
China is heavily subsidizing its EV and renewable industries based on Soviet Style Leninist economic models (I don’t know the details either). Right now the EU (and the US) are looking for ways to protects their automobile industries because Chinese cars are not only cheaper, but better, designed to kill all other automotive industries in the world.
Angrboda:
I saw the forms vice-president Mike Pence on TV yesterday. He thinks (and I agree) that the US has no choice but to continue the blockade on Iran.
The other option is to take the whole Middle East and give its keys to Iran (Just like he did in Afghanistan, Just like he did in Ukraine).
This is simply dangerous. Now I see that the man has a plan. But this is a completely crazy plan. It seems like it’s going to be a long road to 2028 for all of us
Quote:“Help me out here, Leo: what does your response to me have to do with your claim that superpowers need to establish themselves as moral entities?”
I mean when Joe Biden was elected in 2020, one of the first things he said is “America is back”. In the US there are isolationists who think that the US has nothing to do (for instance) with the situation in the Middle East, there are more progressive American who believe that the US is “The Big Guy on the Block” (Barrack Obama’s word). Both of these are “moral” approaches as well. Let me remind you that the US has joined WWI and WWII “To Protect Democracy and Human Rights”.
All major powers have this moral code: For Emperor Constantine it was “One God one Emperor” for Ottomans it was Islam (17th century Islam not Al-Qaida Islam
), For the Soviet it was “The liberation of the Proletariat”, for colonial powers it was the “Mission Civilisatrice”. / D. Trump has no such issue. He wants to win the votes of his isolationist base by leaving:
Let’s not fool ourselves:
- He simply left Afghanistan.
- He just left Ukraine to itself.
- Now he is simply leaving Iran and the whole Middle East. The Iranians know that so they won’t give him nothing:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trum...57610.html
Above is the Memorandum of understanding.
Everyone knows he doesn’t give a …. So if you were Iran would you give him anything at all? Everyone (including Netanyahu) Knows that he is leaving anyway.
So that’s what it is. This is not hubris or stupidity. This is a man who doesn’t care.

The Grand Nudger:
Quote:“Got me wondering what a marxist model would be, and how they account for chinese ev's as an example (or solar, or wind).”
China is heavily subsidizing its EV and renewable industries based on Soviet Style Leninist economic models (I don’t know the details either). Right now the EU (and the US) are looking for ways to protects their automobile industries because Chinese cars are not only cheaper, but better, designed to kill all other automotive industries in the world.
Angrboda:
I saw the forms vice-president Mike Pence on TV yesterday. He thinks (and I agree) that the US has no choice but to continue the blockade on Iran.
The other option is to take the whole Middle East and give its keys to Iran (Just like he did in Afghanistan, Just like he did in Ukraine).
This is simply dangerous. Now I see that the man has a plan. But this is a completely crazy plan. It seems like it’s going to be a long road to 2028 for all of us
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