Food for thought

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There's nothing occult about the zodiac. It's presence in a Jewish synagogue means nothing, at least not what you are claiming.

I have never come across a "scholar", as Padraig puts it, back that theory.

Rulers became stars and common souls became part of the Milky Way which the ancients correctly deduced was a group of stars. Meteors were seen as souls coming to earth to enter the body. The heavens had gates. Souls would enter via Cancer and leave via Capricorn.

Evidence for these wild claims would be appreciated.

I reiterate, Heaven is Heaven, just the sky, nothing else.

The previously mentioned Allen's book is my evidence for my "wild claims." Try to keep up.
Richard H. Allen, Star Names, Their Lore and Meaning (Dover Publishing, 1963),
107.
“[A]ccording to Chaldaean [sic] and Platonist philosophy, it [Cancer] was supposed
Gate of Men through which souls descended from heaven into human bodies.”

I am not sure what you mean by occult. The Babylonian Talmud is full of astrological discussions. There are also astrological references in the DSS and even the Bible. There is much evidence that there is an underlying cosmic myth within the Bible itself. However, the enormity of such evidence to overcome the status quo, can not be expressed in a forum. That is why I wrote a book (100,000+ words) to explain the details of the cosmic myth which presents itself in the Bible. It will soon be out in paper back from Booksurge: "On Earth as it is in Heaven" subtitle: "The Cosmic Roots of the Bible." Older working copies are available from Lulu publishers, although I don't recommend the as I have added some important discoveries to the text and have not updated them in Lulu.

The cosmic myth idea of Judaism is not new. Its presence in a number of Jewish synagogues does mean something, especially in one of them they place the Greeek god Helios. The synagagoues from that same time period to the south of Judea, do not have the mosaics, but rather they write the names of the zodiac signs on the walls of the synagogue. This is very significant as it demonstrates that the zodiac played a role in their religion.

16th century astronomers attempted to place Bible stories in the constellations as did earlier Kabbalah texts. The midrashim alters OT stories to conform with Greek cosmic myths, whereby we can draw parallels and make comparisons to Arabic and Babylonian astrology. The synagogues and midrashim?talmud date the astrology connection to 200 AD or so. The DSS scrolls take us back to 100 BCE.

The book of Matthew is a fusion of ancient astrology from Babylon circa 2000 BCE with the prevailing Greek and Roman views (manger, inn, riding the ass.)

The OT is primarily Arab and Babylonian astrology. There is however later astrological views inserted into the text. This had the effect, in many cases, of creating contradictions, similar to the way contradictions were created in Gilgamesh through the addition of texts (Tigay).

I agree the ancients thought heaven was the sky, and the sky was heaven.

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There's nothing occult about the zodiac. It's presence in a Jewish synagogue means nothing, at least not what you are claiming.

I have never come across a "scholar", as Padraig puts it, back that theory.

Rulers became stars and common souls became part of the Milky Way which the ancients correctly deduced was a group of stars. Meteors were seen as souls coming to earth to enter the body. The heavens had gates. Souls would enter via Cancer and leave via Capricorn.

Evidence for these wild claims would be appreciated.

I reiterate, Heaven is Heaven, just the sky, nothing else.

The previously mentioned Allen's book is my evidence for my "wild claims." Try to keep up.
Richard H. Allen, Star Names, Their Lore and Meaning (Dover Publishing, 1963),
107.
“[A]ccording to Chaldaean [sic] and Platonist philosophy, it [Cancer] was supposed
Gate of Men through which souls descended from heaven into human bodies.”

I am not sure what you mean by occult. The Babylonian Talmud is full of astrological discussions. There are also astrological references in the DSS and even the Bible. There is much evidence that there is an underlying cosmic myth within the Bible itself. However, the enormity of such evidence to overcome the status quo, can not be expressed in a forum. That is why I wrote a book (100,000+ words) to explain the details of the cosmic myth which presents itself in the Bible. It will soon be out in paper back from Booksurge: "On Earth as it is in Heaven" subtitle: "The Cosmic Roots of the Bible." Older working copies are available from Lulu publishers, although I don't recommend the as I have added some important discoveries to the text and have not updated them in Lulu.

The cosmic myth idea of Judaism is not new. Its presence in a number of Jewish synagogues does mean something, especially in one of them they place the Greeek god Helios. The synagagoues from that same time period to the south of Judea, do not have the mosaics, but rather they write the names of the zodiac signs on the walls of the synagogue. This is very significant as it demonstrates that the zodiac played a role in their religion.

16th century astronomers attempted to place Bible stories in the constellations as did earlier Kabbalah texts. The midrashim alters OT stories to conform with Greek cosmic myths, whereby we can draw parallels and make comparisons to Arabic and Babylonian astrology. The synagogues and midrashim?talmud date the astrology connection to 200 AD or so. The DSS scrolls take us back to 100 BCE.

The book of Matthew is a fusion of ancient astrology from Babylon circa 2000 BCE with the prevailing Greek and Roman views (manger, inn, riding the ass.)

The OT is primarily Arab and Babylonian astrology. There is however later astrological views inserted into the text. This had the effect, in many cases, of creating contradictions, similar to the way contradictions were created in Gilgamesh through the addition of texts (Tigay).

I agree the ancients thought heaven was the sky, and the sky was heaven.