RE: Big Brother
January 14, 2012 at 3:17 am
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2012 at 3:20 am by reverendjeremiah.)
Quote:Rev, you're beginning to remind me of the nutty communists in Berkeley who spin me fantastical tales of the post-fascist-capitalist world. All hyperbole with questionable links.Sure...please list those questionable links I have posted...you've got my interest peeked.
Quote:Furthermore, anyone who observes our closest relatives, the chimpanzees, would note that for a loosely affiliate clan-structured society (much like yours and Sae's ridiculous anarchist-syndicates),I am supporting clan-structured societies? I wasnt aware of doing that. That isnt even what anarcho-syndicalism is.
Quote: it has a tendency of oscillating between status quo and incredible bouts of violence.Status quo? How can you have that when property is held in common?
As far as "bouts of violence", sure... humans are known for their bouts of violence, but why does MY view get stuck with its blame when every other political view is just as much of a potential of it? Should we put people in cages for their minor bouts of violence? No. Let them work it out.
Quote:Indeed, a comparison between developing human societies and industrialized countries does show a consistent shift from clan-based organizations to large scale societies (governments).Funny that you knock syndicalism, yet Syndicalism is "Trade Unions" in French. If a syndicate is running an economy, you can sure bet that industrialisation will be very apparent...and there you go with that "clan" talk again. I dont know what you are talking about. Do you understand what "syndicalism" means?
Quote:No one in their right mind would state that the long term societal organization of pre-15th century Bedouins (chosen as an archetype of clan-based) is a blue print for a civilization, yet the same is put forth by you.It is becoming VERY apparent that you havent the slightest clue what "Syndicalism" means.
Quote:In any case, all you advocate is merely an offset of power, not an elimination. Whether said power is in the hands of a society (the government) or some clan-like organization (syndicates). Furthermore, you always get power concentrated into the hands of the few.What are you talking about? Anarcho-syndicalism has no "government" or "state". Anarcho-Syndicalism is a stateless, non-hierarchical society whose economy is run by the trade union through the labor exchange.
Quote:Why?What are you talking about? Anarcho-syndicalism would have all land held in common. How is that "powerful clans"? AS would have a strong civil-libertarian social view, so there would be a decent amount of "cross breeding" amongst the varying types of humans. Why would a system not based on personal profit bring forth "powerful families"? And why does AS get blamed for that, when many other government models (such as the USA) already have it as well?
Probably for the same fucking reason chimpanzees build alliances, temporary and long term. They scheme and accumulate power as well within their societies, often comprising powerful "families".
Quote:If the chimps are doing that, what makes you think we'll transcend our basic nature? We're much more likely to embrace it.Are we chimps?