Quote:a few things:
1) Human morality (including things like our desire to remove murders from society) is not uniquely a christian concept, as the rule not only pre-dates christianity and judieism, but exists outside of what you call 'christian culture.' Therefore, those morals are neither uniquely christian nor the bilble's.
If there is a god; than he predates everything that we have. Would it then not be reasonable to assume that he gave them laws too? All cultures would then originate from the root source of laws; god.
Quote:2) In a godless universe, my morality is my own. It is not dictated to be by another being, so if I have good morals, then that speaks well of me and not someone else. What gives me the right to deem that my morality is higher than god's morality is that my moral center is more indicative of the promotion and advancement of life and individual liberty of what you would call 'god's creation.'
I have put in bold all of your statements that use positive words with your morality. You say that you use society's judgment to call your own morality "good." Is that to say that morality differs between societies? That a society that endorsed baby-rape would be morally okay as long as it was acceptable within their society?
Quote:That is to say that when god murders almost all life in the world in the story of Noah
There is evidence that the story of Noah did not kill everyone on earth, but just within a certain area.
Quote: because he doesn't approve of just who was having babies with whom (we call that eugenics today), tells us about how its okay for Moses to take women and girl virgins as slaves, brides, or bride-slaves, or when Jesus tells us that we shouldn't love anyone (wife, mother, father, or whomever) as much as him,
Please cite your scripture. I will give you some that involves the subject of rape...
This verse gives a punishment for rape. This verse gives the death penalty for raping a married or engaged woman. This verse condemns sexual immorality. Would rape fall under this category? This verse tells the rules of taking women in times of holy war.
Quote: or anything like that, then by realizing that god doesn't even follow his own morals (thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, etc)
Where does he not follow this? The story of Sodom and Gomorrah shows us that god does not kill the innocent. (read the end of this link.) Before every violent act god does; the bible says that they were wicked and deserving.
Quote: then I can see my views of life is more indicative of the preservation and good will of of life, love, and liberty than his is and therefore I am a more moral person.
In the society that you live in, where life, love, liberty (all of which displayed in the bible) are considered morally okay, I suppose this would make you a morally correct person.
Quote:3) If human morality were dictated by god, then all people would have the exact same morals. Instead, there are very pious individuals and those who "sin" gratuitously.
Human morals aren't dictated by god. He gave us the rules; its our prerogative to follow them or not.
Quote: You can't even really claim free will in this case because god gives us morals and if god did not give us morals (according to the theist arguements to me) then we would all be sinners.
Im not quite sure I understand; please elaborate.
Quote:So god is clearly picking and choosing winners here and sentencing the loosers to eternal torture for having morals that god did not grant them.
We all deserve hell. Both you and I. It's through Jesus Christ that we are allowed exception.
Quote:4) "Though shalt not murdur" means to kill without cause.
All of the worst people in human history killed with cause.
We wouldn't call them moral.
If they killed with cause; then we must determine whether or not their killing was justified using a moral standard (the only in existence being the bible and morality given to us by god.) Which it usualy isn't.
Quote:Many of them were even christians (the crusades, for example, or the morality of christians in America calling for war on Muslims.)
Just because Christians do something doesn't mean that it is backed by god. Being post jesus' sacrifice, I would say that the crusade wasn't.
Quote:God's murders were little different in that respect.
God only killed the "wicked" as displayed in many, many different bible stories. (Do to the extent of these stories, for the sake of time i have not cited them here. However, if you would like to know more about them, please say so)
Quote:So yes, for those reasons and more, I would say that most people, christian or not, have a more evolved sense of morality and justice than god does.
How do you know what is moral? Is it in your genes? How and why would evolution put this in you? In your response, please refrain from using words like "better" and "worse," as in a universe with no grand moral judge, they are subjective and relative, and thus cannot be used to prove or disprove a universal truth.
Quote:Therefore, I deem myself a higher moral authority than god because I read his book on morality and I find both him and it extremely amoral and NO ONE has copyrighted morality.
As I said earlier, this is a non-point. Your 'morality' is subjective and relative. If god does exist, (and for the sake of arguing his morality, we must assume he does) then he created your moral standard. Everything that you believe to be right or wrong has a root to god. So something must give here; it appears your sense of morality contradicts that of the bible in some cases. We have two options here;
1. society has turned from certain christian values (That homosexuality and abortion is wrong for examples) and therefore, since you grew up in a culture that found them tolerable, you find them tolerable.
2. You are misreading and misinterpreting the bible, and really you agree with what it says.
Take your pick.