Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian

[DeistPaladin]

And where do you suppose a society of super smart animals got there morality? The only reasonable answer is god. If you have another reasonable asnwer, feel free to answer it.

This song and dance is getting tiresome.

The secular understanding of morality is as a function of how we treat our fellow sentient beings. Because humans are social animals that gain their strength by forming communities, evolution has ensured we have a sense of empathy and fair play. You are free to believe that God gave us this conscience but invoking a deity does nothing to advance our understanding of what morality is. Investigating the "social contract" does a better job of that. We don't advocate the mistreatment of other beings as we would not wish to be treated. Otherwise, we would be guilty of hypocrisy.

By contrast, the vapid religious assertion of God-Verb-It (GodWillsIt, GodWantsIt, GodIsIt, GodDidIt, GodDoesIt, etc.) does little to elucidate our understanding of morality beyond the infantile "cause I said so" (an explanation we never found satisfying even as children, never mind as grown ups). Additionally, this appeal to authority/consequences leads to pitfalls of circular logic. In depth discussion of this line of thinking either exposes mindless subservience (ala the poster Statler-Waldorf on this forum) which is not an objective or absolute standard of morality by definition, or else it reveals the bare assertion that Yahweh is the embodiment of goodness and by circular reasoning and contrived definitions we can "know" that Yahweh is good and what he commands is good (see Ryft's philoso-babble posts).

All this is to say nothing of the fact that this argument does nothing to validate Christianity or even whether the Christian god is the real God. This appeal to consequences, beyond it's fallacious nature, could just as easily be applied to Islam or any other theistic religion. To your credit, you admit as much:

Also, it is not Jesus' morality that makes the bible true...

But then you go on to assert:

...it's the historical evidence. Although, that is a whole different topic, and if you wish to discuss that please say so.

I'm curious if you are willing to defend the highlights of the OT's take on history. These would be primarily:

1. The Garden of Eden
2. The global flood and the assertion that two of any species is sufficient to save it from extinction.
3. The tower that could reach up into Heaven.
4. The Jewish population explosion in Egypt (hint: every Jewish woman would have needed to be constantly pregnant with twins).
5. The ten plagues of Egypt
6. The 40 years in the Sinai
7. The bloody path to the promised land
8. The Davidic empire

Here's your rope. Just toss it over that beam...