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A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
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RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
Quote:Concerning your atheism, you claim to base it on logic. Logically, there is a creator for every created, nothing creates itself, which makes belief in god more reasonable than atheism. This is simple logic.
That's not logic, it's illogic.

We don't use the unknown to explain the known, because it doesn't work. It's logical procedure to use the known to explain the unknown not the other way round. So no, your argument is not logical.
Also we start with the obvious and what we know now, not going around assuming the improbable.
We currently know that there are 4 forces of nature and 12 possibles of matter. Formation is entirely possible. In fact it's well supported. We see it all the time in space.
Now we don't know where all this matter and energy came from and so we state that we simply don't have the information. We don't know. Asserting that a god did it is no different from asserting that pixies did it or fairies. Since there is no way for us to measure and verify it. The whole 'god did it' is ruled out because it's a non-answer. It has no explanatory power or value.
Also if god didn't need a designer then why not go further and state the universe didn't need a designer. Planets form on their own, we're watching one forming now - http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badast...ar-system/

So until you can demonstrate that this 'god' exists and demonstrate that it was the cause of everything, It'll remain ruled out. Before one can assert that a god created anything, one must first prove that a god exists. A does not prove B without first proving A.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Phil - January 15, 2012 at 8:18 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Braveheart - January 15, 2012 at 11:21 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Darwinian - January 15, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Phil - January 15, 2012 at 8:38 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by dloubet - January 15, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 8:40 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Phil - January 15, 2012 at 9:41 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 10:11 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Darwinian - January 15, 2012 at 8:40 pm
A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Zen Badger - January 15, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 15, 2012 at 10:00 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 15, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Minimalist - January 15, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Jackalope - January 15, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 15, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 16, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Phil - January 16, 2012 at 9:18 am
A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Zen Badger - January 16, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Erinome - January 16, 2012 at 3:39 am
A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Zen Badger - January 16, 2012 at 4:18 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by 8BitAtheist - January 16, 2012 at 4:19 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 16, 2012 at 5:31 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by genkaus - January 16, 2012 at 7:40 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Aegrus - January 16, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by a moment - January 18, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by genkaus - January 19, 2012 at 4:46 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Whateverist - January 20, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 21, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Whateverist - January 21, 2012 at 12:08 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 21, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 16, 2012 at 11:42 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 17, 2012 at 8:09 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 17, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 22, 2012 at 3:24 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by thesummerqueen - January 17, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Napoléon - January 17, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by thesummerqueen - January 17, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by thesummerqueen - January 17, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by padraic - January 17, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Mister Agenda - January 17, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by technophobe - January 17, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by frankiej - January 17, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by JohnDG - January 17, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Forsaken - January 17, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 17, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by padraic - January 19, 2012 at 1:30 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Perhaps - January 19, 2012 at 2:23 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Whateverist - January 21, 2012 at 12:38 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Ace Otana - January 19, 2012 at 6:53 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Doubting Thomas - January 19, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by passionatefool - January 20, 2012 at 3:52 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Rhizomorph13 - January 20, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 22, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 22, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Ryft - January 22, 2012 at 5:33 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Perhaps - January 23, 2012 at 12:39 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Ryft - January 23, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Perhaps - January 23, 2012 at 1:21 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by padraic - January 23, 2012 at 3:18 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 23, 2012 at 4:23 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by genkaus - January 24, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Mister Agenda - January 25, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Edwardo Piet - January 23, 2012 at 7:34 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 23, 2012 at 7:49 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by LastPoet - January 23, 2012 at 7:56 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by KichigaiNeko - January 23, 2012 at 11:00 am
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by Doubting Thomas - January 23, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism.. - by houseofcantor - January 27, 2012 at 3:06 am

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