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Mitt Romney income calculator
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RE: Mitt Romney income calculator
Problem with your model of capitalism, Tiberius, is that you assume gives consumers from all walks of life a fair chance.

But it doesn't.

If your parents make all the money such that you coast off of it like a socialite (the Hilton family comes to mind), is it your wealth because you worked hard through capitalism?

No. You won it by birthright.

There you go -- glaring fault with capitalism right there: does not factor in initial resources for any individual being disproportionately unequal (between the common plebe in America and the 1%'s kids, who get's to Harvard on a regular basis? Is it purely because those 'regular basis' people are endemically smarter, better? Or is it simply that they come from a moneyed class?)

Consider the example in the parenthesis -- ask yourself "Is it in anyway fair for competing in a Capitalist system if the stakes are endemically unfair?"

Because it is -- people with massive amounts of resources continue to win big while people with few/lesser resources continue to lose.

This is the problem of capitalism -- in a fair setting, businesses/individuals with the best ability to outmarket, outproduce, etc their opponent succeeds.

But in an unfair setting, businesses/individuals with the most money can:
- simply buy the better product/producer and make it theirs
- undersell their crappy product aka engage in a price war (Carnegie was notorious for driving people out of business because he could tolerate a price war longer)
- invest their resources into changing:
-- popular opinion (Hearst and Du Pont for getting cannabis criminalized through calling hemp 'marijuana' -- a term unfamiliar to Americans at the time -- and pushed propaganda through his newspaper)
-- buying off politicians (do I really need an example? Ok -- howbout SOPA/PIPA?)

The most egregious example of "being too successful" (really Tiberius, really? You claim there "is no such thing?)?

Let's replace "being too successful" with something else:
"being too powerful" -- you can buy off politicians and government. You can own a newspaper and work with your friend to induce a public panic and cause the criminalization of a goddamn plant that everyone liked.

Nope -- there is no such thing as being too successful. Gotcha. I trust you. ~
Slave to the Patriarchy no more
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Mitt Romney income calculator - by Doubting Thomas - January 25, 2012 at 3:13 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Tiberius - January 25, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Faith No More - January 25, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Minimalist - January 25, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 25, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Doubting Thomas - January 25, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Minimalist - January 25, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Anomalocaris - January 25, 2012 at 5:08 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by frankiej - January 25, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Tiberius - January 25, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Doubting Thomas - January 25, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Tiberius - January 25, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by padraic - January 25, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Doubting Thomas - January 25, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 25, 2012 at 11:42 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Doubting Thomas - January 26, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 26, 2012 at 2:55 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Perhaps - January 26, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Minimalist - January 26, 2012 at 2:49 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 26, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Tiberius - January 26, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Doubting Thomas - January 26, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Autumnlicious - January 26, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Perhaps - January 27, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by paintpooper - January 27, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Tiberius - January 26, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Autumnlicious - January 26, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Tiberius - January 26, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Autumnlicious - January 26, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Tiberius - January 26, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 26, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Autumnlicious - January 26, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Tiberius - January 26, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 26, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Perhaps - January 27, 2012 at 2:43 am
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Autumnlicious - January 26, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Tiberius - January 27, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 27, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Perhaps - January 27, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Violet - January 27, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 27, 2012 at 1:32 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Perhaps - January 27, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 27, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Perhaps - January 28, 2012 at 3:07 am
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 28, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by reverendjeremiah - January 28, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Mitt Romney income calculator - by Perhaps - January 29, 2012 at 4:17 pm

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