(January 27, 2012 at 1:06 pm)Perhaps Wrote:(January 26, 2012 at 4:48 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Wow, are you an idiot. To get that wealth, you have to accumulate it from others. How hard is that to understand?
It's reciprocal which is why it's fair and why competition works. The ad hominem attacks are amazing in this thread.
(January 26, 2012 at 4:48 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:(January 26, 2012 at 4:22 pm)Perhaps Wrote: The end goal of society should not be to live off each other, but rather to provide for one's self.
That is an even more idiotic assertion. Looking at our roots and our closest evolutionary cousins, it seems that society is nothing BUT living off each other.
Why the fuck else would a social species for groups, troops and dynasties, if not for the very purpose of living off, in some way, another?
Durrrrrr.
Society = The aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.
Not living off each other, but rather living together. You can live together while competing for resources in an orderly manner.
In true capitalism all have equal opportunity through education to compete equally. The problem is that education is lacking currently. Don't hate the economic system - hate the current state of affairs.
Society = the people!
YES. If everything was running correctly we wouldn't need unemployment and things of that nature. We need to become in equilibrium with the planet and the people.
Economics is very simple on the basic levels, taxes, fines, loopholes, fiat money, interest, debt, and all these other economic realities make it fucked up.
We are a consumer waste country, no product should be made without it being a useful product that someone else needs. Cause if not the business should cease to exist.
Education gets us all on the same playing field. We all need to be educated to use rational thought and critical thinking. We humans are able to decide things our for ourselves, we don't need a government entity controlling us and our businesses.
In nature we didn't go around finding food and shelter and if we didn't find any we had someone just had us some food. No we used our minds to think about the current situation and how to fix our own problems, small local communities coming together to do what is best for them. We are not individuals but a society and culture.
Seems like a lot of people are stuck in the current economic and work style paradigm, when the real solution is a completely different way of life and government.