Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity.

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Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity.

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RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity.

February 1, 2012 at 6:45 am (This post was last modified: February 1, 2012 at 6:54 am by Rokcet Scientist.)

(February 1, 2012 at 2:45 am)Minimalist Wrote: The Enlightenment ( which thought religion was horseshit) gave us the concept of personal freedom and consent of the governed.

No, it clearly never gave YOU "the concept of personal freedom and consent of the governed" IRL (look around you). How could it have: the Pilgrims arrived just prior to the Enlightenment movement. They were never a part of it. In fact they were 'escaping' it, from 'enlightened' Europe, because they specifically did NOT want personal freedom to screw up their sick view of a socially and state controlled, puritan society. They wanted (and still do; watch the 2012 GOP campaigns) the church to BE the state.

Exactly like Jim Jones c.s.

I.o.w. the USA was started by a bunch of raving lunatics...

Some things never change.

(February 1, 2012 at 2:22 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: Aren't ideas like freedom of religion and the separation of church and state naturally opposed to what seems to naturally become the Christian agenda (that is to dominate, oppress, and take over)?

That's where you go wrong: the Xtian agenda is not "to dominate, oppress, and take over", but to "evangelize, convince, and save".
(They invented Newspeak, you see).

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Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 1, 2012 at 2:22 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Minimalist - February 1, 2012 at 2:45 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Rokcet Scientist - February 1, 2012 at 6:45 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 1, 2012 at 12:01 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Rokcet Scientist - February 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Mister Agenda - February 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Minimalist - February 1, 2012 at 1:08 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Rokcet Scientist - February 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 1, 2012 at 3:00 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Rokcet Scientist - February 1, 2012 at 3:50 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 1, 2012 at 7:11 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Rokcet Scientist - February 2, 2012 at 4:02 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 2, 2012 at 11:46 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Doubting Thomas - February 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 1, 2012 at 7:18 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Minimalist - February 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Godschild - February 1, 2012 at 6:43 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by kılıç_mehmet - February 1, 2012 at 7:17 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by padraic - February 1, 2012 at 7:47 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 1, 2012 at 11:24 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Minimalist - February 1, 2012 at 7:55 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Bgood - February 2, 2012 at 5:53 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Anomalocaris - February 2, 2012 at 1:34 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Godschild - February 2, 2012 at 9:00 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 2, 2012 at 10:43 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Bgood - February 2, 2012 at 11:26 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Rokcet Scientist - February 3, 2012 at 4:19 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Minimalist - February 3, 2012 at 12:10 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by CliveStaples - February 3, 2012 at 4:51 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 3, 2012 at 1:05 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2012 at 2:36 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Bgood - February 4, 2012 at 1:56 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Rokcet Scientist - February 4, 2012 at 5:13 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Bgood - February 4, 2012 at 5:22 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Rokcet Scientist - February 4, 2012 at 5:31 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by RW_9 - February 4, 2012 at 2:06 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 4, 2012 at 6:10 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Rokcet Scientist - February 4, 2012 at 11:10 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by CliveStaples - February 5, 2012 at 12:02 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Xavier - February 4, 2012 at 11:18 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 4, 2012 at 11:39 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by RW_9 - February 5, 2012 at 3:44 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Bgood - February 11, 2012 at 4:11 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 10:24 am

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Bgood - February 12, 2012 at 11:51 pm

RE: Logic problem: The founding principles of the U.S. and Christianity. - by Ziploc Surprise - February 13, 2012 at 2:09 am

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