(July 19, 2009 at 12:05 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Science is demonstrable and it actually works. It has evidence. It's not equal to just anything else to put your own personal belief in. It's not equal to the Flying Spaghetti Monster! It has evidence, the FSM doesn't.There is evidence for the kind of God I am talking about as well - there is no evidence for such an absurd straw man as "flying spaghetti monster". But the problem is just, this has nothing to do with what I am talking about.
(July 19, 2009 at 12:05 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I'm not asking for objective evidence for objectivity to exist in the first place, that would of course be absurd.Now that you see this, you only need to understand the consequence of that fact.
(July 19, 2009 at 12:05 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I'm asking for any valid evidence for; not just anything objective; but any absolute objective truth.If there is no objectivity involved in the "valid evidence", then it is subjectively defined what that "valid evidence" constitutes. And then you can provide valid subjective evidence, but since you define it yourself, it is not valid objectively, meaning that it doesn't apply outside of your mind. As to the rephrasing to "absolute objective truth", you still cannot provide objective evidence for such a thing, because it breaks down to semantics.
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