RE: Do animals have free Will?
February 9, 2012 at 4:27 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2012 at 4:33 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(February 9, 2012 at 4:06 pm)genkaus Wrote:(February 9, 2012 at 3:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You're still talking about more or less of this or that before you consider something to have "free will", Shells criticism applies. Essentially, this is saying "the more human and the less like an animal (what does that even mean?) the closer to free will. Well, again, anthropic bias.
No. I'm saying that the more conceptually capable a consciousness is, the closer to free will it is. I cannot help it if humans happen to be on the top of the scale.
Based on what do you say the more conceptually capable, the more genuinely free are the will? It seems to me that the more conceptually capable, the more might be the capacity to conceptualizing a will as being free. But that does not actually make the will free.
It takes quite a bit of power of conceptualization to coneptualize the sky as a dome sitting over a flat earth, and this concept may even have some degree of explanatory power, but that does not make the concept correct.
(February 9, 2012 at 4:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Now...if one of those chimps looked into the camera and said "'god' told me to kill" that would be something else.
Never saw any of the El Queda videos?