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Do animals have free Will?
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RE: Do animals have free Will?
(February 9, 2012 at 6:31 am)Tiberius Wrote: "other than their nature"

What is that supposed to mean? How can anyone (or anything) do something other than their nature? Can you give an example of something humans do that is "against their nature".

Well I would define it as really anyone doing something they don't want to or wouldn't normally do because someone else makes them. For example dogs can be trained to do things and not do things, just like how the Christian church et al. train their followers...
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."

-Ruta Skadi, The Subtle Knife
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Do animals have free Will? - by Forsaken - February 9, 2012 at 5:15 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by tackattack - February 9, 2012 at 6:24 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Tiberius - February 9, 2012 at 6:31 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by AthiestAtheist - February 9, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by tackattack - February 9, 2012 at 7:20 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Napoléon - February 9, 2012 at 7:53 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 10:35 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 11:13 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Whateverist - February 9, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Shell B - February 9, 2012 at 12:24 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Anomalocaris - February 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Shell B - February 9, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 9, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 9, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by RW_9 - February 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Cosmic Ape - February 9, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by 5thHorseman - February 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Anomalocaris - February 9, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 9:21 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Jackalope - February 9, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Jackalope - February 9, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - February 9, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by AthiestAtheist - February 10, 2012 at 2:33 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by jediphobic - February 9, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 5:05 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - February 9, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 5:08 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - February 9, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by 5thHorseman - February 10, 2012 at 3:55 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by padraic - February 9, 2012 at 8:36 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - February 9, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 10, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 2:37 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by padraic - February 10, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by AthiestAtheist - February 10, 2012 at 11:29 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - April 12, 2012 at 8:03 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Chuff - February 10, 2012 at 5:50 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 10, 2012 at 6:04 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 3:50 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 11, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 11, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 8:36 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 11, 2012 at 9:31 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by NoMoreFaith - April 12, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - April 12, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Faith No More - April 12, 2012 at 8:53 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Aegrus - April 12, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by R-e-n-n-a-t - April 12, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by padraic - April 12, 2012 at 7:37 pm

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