(February 13, 2012 at 2:20 pm)Koklanas Wrote:(February 13, 2012 at 2:15 pm)genkaus Wrote:(February 13, 2012 at 2:08 pm)Koklanas Wrote:(February 13, 2012 at 1:57 pm)genkaus Wrote:(February 13, 2012 at 11:11 am)Koklanas Wrote: If you dont get what you need (food , job, water, son, daughter... etc) then it means that Supreme being is saying to you 'work harder! or 'do more good deeds!', 'help the poor', 'respect your mother' etc.
I mean your dont expect to recover from any sickness of you dont take medicine. You dont expect too live long if you your self smoke, One thing leads to another!
Believe me his reward will come to you in a very mysterious way. May be ... Out of no where you may grow old until the age of 100 without stroke, or the almighty savse you from a plane crash, or you winning a lottery!...
So, you are already assuming existence of a supreme being prior to the argument from need. What is the basis of your assumption?
prior to the argument from need?
I dont quite get what you mean, can you rephrase it.
You argued that since people need justice, therefore a god must exist to provide it. But your latter argument suggests that god exists regardless of people's needs. Thus, I'm asking you to support that.
You mean those 2 arguement are contradicting? Prior argument and later argument? I need to really understand what you mean before I answer.
The latter negates the former. If god exists regardless of people's needs, the people's needs cannot be the reason for god's existence.