Hamza Tzortzis

[Koklanas]

or may be why there is a neccessity to get married at all? when no law will be imposed on you for not getting married? including God's law. since no such entity in Athiest's mind.

anyone out there wishes to share any thought on this,,, to me getting married is only for those who has a religion since every religion's belief has rule and regulation on marriage. Not so sure about athiest, if it has a set of rules for the follower/believer to comply to.

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'Knowing there are people with the same sex getting married is even more laughable'

Why you jealous you can't out yourself as a bum bandit in your Asian backwater country for fear of persecution?

We dont fear prosecution, we fear punishment from the supreme being if we escape any prosecution during our lifetime. If the is no Supreme Being

we dont fear at all, all i need to do is ,, just try hard escaping conviction from the authority!

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As compared to my belief I can expect reward if I do good or punishment if i do bad

I use the tool (brain) god gave me to decide. I can still choose evil if I want to, it is entirely up to me, and I should expect punishment if I do so.

Let me ask you, if you do evil, woud you expect punishment from the authority at all.? And The big question is, what if you escape conviction forever until you die?

So here you say that you do god for reward and avoid evil so you don't get punished. That is exactly opposite of what you said earlier. If that's true then you are amoral (without morals).

If I do something against the law, of course I expect punishment by the police if I am caught. What if I escape conviction, I escape conviction - seems like a fairly simple answer. Only I don't break the law so I have no need to worry about punishment.

Talking about punishment, there are three reasons for punishment (ignoring retribution and restoration). One is to rehabilitate you so when you are introduced back into society you won't do the same again. Two is to protect society from you. Three is prevention (or deterrence). however you think Allah or for Christians Yahweh punishes you after death, which of the reasons I wrote above is the purpose of the punishment? There is no reason for any punishment after death nor is there a hell (if that is what one believes) unless one is willing to say Allah (or Yahweh) punishes people for his own amusement.

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I am not talking about beating the red traffic light, I am talking about killing the innocent, and escape conviction during your lifetime. That innocent victim will no get any justice.

Justice is something that is a 'must happen' thing. either materialize on earth or the Hereafter.

it must be balance! inbalance is against the nature/logic

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There is such a thing called 'repentence' in all 3 Abrahamic religion. Jewish, Christian and Islam ( religion that stresses oneness of God).
Those who repent falls under rehabilitation category.
Prophet Adam was forgiven once, when he repented and asked forgivenes from God for eating the forbiden fruit.

Those 3 religions also have deterance sentence mentioned in the old tastement, book of torah (jews), Qoran. Once one receives this deterent sentence one's sin will be forgiven by God. No need to worry when one dies. perfectly clean slate again. The sentence normally involves canning.

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So here you say that you do god for reward and avoid evil so you don't get punished. That is exactly opposite of what you said earlier. If that's true then you are amoral (without morals).

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Maybe what I wrote (writed) earlier was as as result of my poor english. and my lousy tablet and IE7 software.

But I meant (meaned) the above.

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or may be why there is a neccessity to get married at all? when no law will be imposed on you for not getting married? including God's law. since no such entity in Athiest's mind.

anyone out there wishes to share any thought on this,,, to me getting married is only for those who has a religion since every religion's belief has rule and regulation on marriage. Not so sure about athiest, if it has a set of rules for the follower/believer to comply to.

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'Knowing there are people with the same sex getting married is even more laughable'

Why you jealous you can't out yourself as a bum bandit in your Asian backwater country for fear of persecution?

We dont fear prosecution, we fear punishment from the supreme being if we escape any prosecution during our lifetime. If the is no Supreme Being

we dont fear at all, all i need to do is ,, just try hard escaping conviction from the authority!

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As compared to my belief I can expect reward if I do good or punishment if i do bad

I use the tool (brain) god gave me to decide. I can still choose evil if I want to, it is entirely up to me, and I should expect punishment if I do so.

Let me ask you, if you do evil, woud you expect punishment from the authority at all.? And The big question is, what if you escape conviction forever until you die?

So here you say that you do god for reward and avoid evil so you don't get punished. That is exactly opposite of what you said earlier. If that's true then you are amoral (without morals).

If I do something against the law, of course I expect punishment by the police if I am caught. What if I escape conviction, I escape conviction - seems like a fairly simple answer. Only I don't break the law so I have no need to worry about punishment.

Talking about punishment, there are three reasons for punishment (ignoring retribution and restoration). One is to rehabilitate you so when you are introduced back into society you won't do the same again. Two is to protect society from you. Three is prevention (or deterrence). however you think Allah or for Christians Yahweh punishes you after death, which of the reasons I wrote above is the purpose of the punishment? There is no reason for any punishment after death nor is there a hell (if that is what one believes) unless one is willing to say Allah (or Yahweh) punishes people for his own amusement.

,.....

I am not talking about beating the red traffic light, I am talking about killing the innocent, and escape conviction during your lifetime. That innocent victim will no get any justice.

Justice is something that is a 'must happen' thing. either materialize on earth or the Hereafter.

it must be balance! inbalance is against the nature/logic

........

There is such a thing called 'repentence' in all 3 Abrahamic religion. Jewish, Christian and Islam ( religion that stresses oneness of God).
Those who repent falls under rehabilitation category.
Prophet Adam was forgiven once, when he repented and asked forgivenes from God for eating the forbiden fruit.

Those 3 religions also have deterance sentence mentioned in the old tastement, book of torah (jews), Qoran. Once one receives this deterent sentence one's sin will be forgiven by God. No need to worry when one dies. perfectly clean slate again. The sentence normally involves canning.

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So here you say that you do god for reward and avoid evil so you don't get punished. That is exactly opposite of what you said earlier. If that's true then you are amoral (without morals).

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Maybe what I wrote (writed) earlier was as as result of my poor english. and my lousy tablet and IE7 software.

But I meant (meaned) the above.


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How come my quotes broke (breaked) up . How you edit it to make the quote short?

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ARGUMENTUM AD NATIONALITY:
1- English do not have word for god
2- My country has a special word for god
3- Therefore, god exists.


Seriously, this guy must be a poe.

Just want to stress my point God is either male nor female.