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Is this a true Christian?
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RE: Is this a true Christian?
(February 17, 2012 at 10:35 pm)renew Wrote: Reason is behind courage. Passion is what drives most people to stand on their soapbox, the desire for someone to understand.

I absolutely agree with you - 'reason is behind courage'. Just because you personally do not agree with someone, that does not mean that they have not used 'reason'. Or would you deny the ability to 'reason' to anyone you disagree with? I will assume that you do not as that would be a form of madness.

I absolutely agree with you - 'the desire for someone to understand'. Yes, you are getting there bit by bit. If someone really wants you to understand he will go a long way to get his message over. Whilst we agree that his message was of no interest, to him it was vital! He thought he was doing good. We both disagree with him but so what? He was trying to get his message across. Good for him for having the courage to try. Don't forget that there are plenty of people who will admire both his courage AND his message. The fact that we do not like the message or his style does not negate the courage.

Quote:.....the little history lesson you gave on women, thanks, wasn't aware of it ........

No, I thought you had forgotten about those brave people. The were roundly condemned but had the courage to stand up and insult people who didn't agree with them. Their 'reasoning' was challenged at all levels of society. Despite great number of people trying to deny them their 'reason', their bravery eventually won through. Admirable, don't you think? Even though they were being 'thoroughly unpleasant'.

"Don't worry your little head about it, it's probably beyond women to understand".

That is a very, very mild example of the verbal abuse and 'reasoning' that the suffragettes had to overcome. What problems do you think the oaf in the video has to overcome? The suffragettes' actions required determination and bravery and so did the oaf's - in his view.

For the record I believe absolutely in equality and universal suffrage for everyone with an IQ over 99. My quote above was just to make you think.


(February 18, 2012 at 10:29 am)whateverist Wrote: You know, according to Aristotle, "courage" is not the polar opposite of "cowardice", "brashness" is.

The Coward has too much regard for consequences - fear.

The Courageous correctly apprehends the consequences but does what must be done anyway in spite of the fear.

The Brash have too little regard for the consequences, the fear or the harm they do to others.

brash/braSH/
Adjective:
Self-assertive in a rude, noisy, or overbearing way.

Synonyms:
impudent - insolent - audacious - impertinent - cheek

Thank you. I agree with your earlier observation that he had foreseen trouble, hence the video camera and witnesses.

Off at a tangent a bit - what is the opposite of courage?
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Is this a true Christian? - by reverendjeremiah - February 9, 2012 at 1:55 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Forsaken - February 9, 2012 at 2:37 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 9, 2012 at 2:40 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 9, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Faith No More - February 9, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 9, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 10, 2012 at 5:24 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 10, 2012 at 9:10 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by AthiestAtheist - February 9, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 9, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 10, 2012 at 8:52 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 11, 2012 at 8:30 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 13, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 14, 2012 at 6:33 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Faith No More - February 10, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 11, 2012 at 8:47 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 11, 2012 at 11:39 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 11, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 12, 2012 at 6:14 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by padraic - February 11, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by padraic - February 11, 2012 at 9:40 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by kılıç_mehmet - February 11, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 12, 2012 at 9:02 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 12, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by SilverFrog - February 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by padraic - February 12, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 12, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 13, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 13, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 13, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 13, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Doubting Thomas - February 13, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by padraic - February 13, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 13, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 14, 2012 at 5:19 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Doubting Thomas - February 14, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 15, 2012 at 5:04 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Strongbad - February 14, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by KichigaiNeko - February 15, 2012 at 4:36 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by KichigaiNeko - February 15, 2012 at 5:08 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 15, 2012 at 5:14 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by KichigaiNeko - February 15, 2012 at 5:17 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 15, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by padraic - February 15, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 16, 2012 at 6:59 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 15, 2012 at 9:53 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by KichigaiNeko - February 15, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 16, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 16, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by padraic - February 16, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 17, 2012 at 5:15 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 16, 2012 at 9:20 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 17, 2012 at 6:18 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by KichigaiNeko - February 16, 2012 at 9:38 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 16, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by KichigaiNeko - February 16, 2012 at 9:43 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Justtristo - February 16, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by coffeeveritas - February 16, 2012 at 10:12 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Whateverist - February 17, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 17, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Whateverist - February 17, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 18, 2012 at 9:19 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 17, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 18, 2012 at 10:31 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 19, 2012 at 9:19 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 19, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 19, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 20, 2012 at 6:41 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 24, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 26, 2012 at 5:18 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 27, 2012 at 12:39 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 28, 2012 at 10:03 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 28, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 29, 2012 at 5:13 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by renew - February 17, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by padraic - February 17, 2012 at 6:36 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 18, 2012 at 10:12 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 18, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Whateverist - February 18, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Whateverist - February 18, 2012 at 11:16 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 18, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 19, 2012 at 5:17 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 19, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 19, 2012 at 8:21 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 21, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 22, 2012 at 4:57 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by reverendjeremiah - February 21, 2012 at 10:11 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Godschild - February 24, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Strongbad - February 27, 2012 at 7:49 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 21, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by reverendjeremiah - February 24, 2012 at 9:20 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Godschild - February 24, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Epimethean - February 24, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Is this a true Christian? - by Aardverk - February 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm

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