Anto,
My example of "name it claim it" religion was an example of kooky ideas. The fact that you find it kooky means you still have some rational ability. Your ideas sound just as kooky only they go against natural human drives, so they are more destructive.
How can you process this obvious bullshit into a rational direction in life? I bet you just do whatever the fuck you want and then label it god's will after the fact.
Look, let's assume there is a god that created the universe just for fun. Why wouldn't you believe that he created all those drives you are shunning?
Also you have it backwards! Our drives are what give us pleasure! I love eating, I love drinking, and the fact that your genitalia says to "squeeze me" well, you're doing it wrong! The fact that you hold a belief that goes so entirly against your urges will ultimatly cause cognitive dissonance.
That is part of religious practices around the world. Deny yourself what you really want and your body will create experiences to fill the void. Abstain from sex and your dream life will become very vivid! Avoid talking and your mind will charge around in you big empty head in search of stimulation.
I do have a better definition for god! Thanks for asking!
God is imaginary!™
Rhizo
My example of "name it claim it" religion was an example of kooky ideas. The fact that you find it kooky means you still have some rational ability. Your ideas sound just as kooky only they go against natural human drives, so they are more destructive.
(July 31, 2009 at 8:26 am)Anto Kennedy Wrote: I know, it's fucked up lol. However we're not talking about your will in reality, we're talking about the many, often times conflicting, wills of the body. The stomach says, 'feed me', the throat says, 'quench me', the genitalia say, 'sqeeze me' etc. These wills take away from our own happiness, so the irony is, by giving up these wills, by giving up that life, we gain new life and a new, free will, the Holy Spirit, which is the Spirit of Creation. Remember that we aren't giving up our will to another human, or biological entity, we're giving up our biological (and psychological) wills to allow the Will of Creation to drive us, and the Will of Creation, the Holy Spirit, is the Will of Nature.
It's about perfectly adapting to this reality. What is the first will of life, the primal urge, undiluted by sexual desire, the desire to consume, the desire to possess. What is the will of the first ever living organism on this planet, with neither stomach nor genitalia? It is a command, the Holy Spirit, the Word spoken by God in the beginning, 'There shalt not be nothing!', 'I cannot die, there shall be no death, I shall live, I shall create, I shall struggle and overcome!'
It's about living true to life through the get desire, the great Spirit of Creation, undiluted by the minor desires that have accumulated over the past 4 billion years (apparently life may have begun as early as that, although to be conservative let's say 3.5 billion)
We are not submitting to an intelligence, ordering our every action and thought, we are submitting to a spirit, an energy, not just that, but the Greatest Energy, that which creates and sutains the universe itself, and that energy becomes our own, that fire burns in our hearts, and we then order that energy, we provide the intelligence with that Spirit.
And of the wills that comprimise our integrity, it's the psychological wills which are the most difficult to control and snuff out.
How can you process this obvious bullshit into a rational direction in life? I bet you just do whatever the fuck you want and then label it god's will after the fact.
Look, let's assume there is a god that created the universe just for fun. Why wouldn't you believe that he created all those drives you are shunning?
Also you have it backwards! Our drives are what give us pleasure! I love eating, I love drinking, and the fact that your genitalia says to "squeeze me" well, you're doing it wrong! The fact that you hold a belief that goes so entirly against your urges will ultimatly cause cognitive dissonance.
That is part of religious practices around the world. Deny yourself what you really want and your body will create experiences to fill the void. Abstain from sex and your dream life will become very vivid! Avoid talking and your mind will charge around in you big empty head in search of stimulation.
I do have a better definition for god! Thanks for asking!
God is imaginary!™
Rhizo