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My take on minority related issues.
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RE: My take on minority related issues.
(February 28, 2012 at 9:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So, a large group of people have decided that they deserve the right to self governance
They did, but half of that large group lives in western provinces.
What do? IF they really want self governance, they better all go. The last thing I want in my country is 6 million of Kurds with dual Turkish-Kurdish passports.

Quote: and you believe that they are capable of both establishing and supporting their own state
Not in the current state they're in. And without western assistance, their dreams would quickly crumble to dust.
Quote:you figure the best way to handle the situation is to engage in a campaign of psychological intimidation?
Yes. It worked in the past until the present day government came to power, lifted martial law in southeastern provinces, and brought forth regulations that do not allow Soldiers to engage targets until they get a clear OK from the Mayor of the Province.
Ever since, the Kurds have been pushing their luck further, and I know that it's close that we two will come to blows.
Again, without assistance, the Kurds will probably lose, as half of their number are in western provinces, and they only represent a majority in a handful of provinces in the southeast, mostly close to the Syrian, Iraq and Iran border.

And how did it work? Assasinating their leaders, storming their strongholds. For now, the Turkish army rests in it's nest, like a chained wolf, ready to lunge at the throat of his captor.
Once we unchain the army, they will deal with the armed combatants their way, re-declare martial law in troubled provinces, but at the same time, bring forth a few economic reforms that might soothe the situation for the time being.

Until now, the PKK has sabotaged any attempts of enriching the area: bombing and storming of construction sites, killing of engineers, school teachers and etc. They explicitely tell Kurds not to send their children to school, which is not really understandable, as the most staunch kurdish nationalists I've known were well educated, leftist kurds, although they probably would deny that they're nationalists, and still emphasize on human brotherhood or something.

So, Landlords are still on our side. Because if the PKK steps in, they dangle from the gallows on the next day.
And kurds are highly tribal. We Turks have learned to look beyond our tribal associations when dealing with eachother, the Kurds have not.
There are still a large number of Kurd tribes who are in long bloodfeuds with eachother.
Whether they reconcile or not, it'd be for the best to keep them in a confused state.
Quote: I mean, why turn into the boogeymen they probably already claim you are? That's fuel to the fire. I say slaughter them. Or get used to seeing Kurdistani Flags. Do you live an an area that you feel might be included in some future Kurdistan?
They cannot, if they realize that they cannot.
This conflict can go for ever and ever, and Kurds can never hope to match our numbers in our own soil. Their best archievements so far include raiding lone outposts, and laying mines on roads for convoys to pass over. They would not be able to stand a massive offensive should it take place. But the current government is not keen to resolve this problem. They just fuel the fire, as you say.
Slaughtering them?
That's not really an option these days. Besides, with half of their numbers living in western provinces, with some of them having intermarried with locals, it's sometimes hard to spot one. Some even have blonde hair and blue eyes by default(pureblood kurds, who were indo-aryans), and are sometimes indistinguishable from westerners aside from their peculiar head shape, which resembles an upside down trapezoid from the front.
Aside from these difficulties, one cannot ignore the international outcry that would probably result, even more so, since the west is supporting the PKK with funds, not to mention that so-called human rights organisations screaming freedom for their imprisoned leader, Abdullah Öcalan.
The best way to deal with them is to ignore them. They cannot fight this fight for ever. We can, we have a fully equipped army. We have a country, they do not. They do not even have a unified language. The best we can do is to lay stones on their way to independence, until they are given independence somewhere else in the middle east, outside of our borders. We might even throw in the Batman province for good measure, so that they shut up, and handle things through a population exchange, like in good times.
Those Kurds who do not wish to leave will live in autonomous communities in designated areas, but will have access to full benefits of Turkish citizenship.

But we're already used to seeing Kurdistani flags. They wave them every day in present-day Diyarbakır, whenever one of their number is slain in battle. The police is silent. The government is silent. We are not. We do not allow for such pest to flourish where we live.
And I do not live in a place which might include a future Kurdistan, I live in the capital.
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My take on minority related issues. - by kılıç_mehmet - February 28, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: My take on minority related issues. - by The Grand Nudger - February 28, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RE: My take on minority related issues. - by kılıç_mehmet - February 29, 2012 at 4:15 am
RE: My take on minority related issues. - by frankiej - February 29, 2012 at 6:14 am
RE: My take on minority related issues. - by kılıç_mehmet - February 29, 2012 at 7:15 am
RE: My take on minority related issues. - by frankiej - February 29, 2012 at 7:22 am
RE: My take on minority related issues. - by kılıç_mehmet - February 29, 2012 at 7:34 am

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