(August 4, 2009 at 10:34 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Um ... if something has ALWAYS existed then it can't have been created ... doh!!!!And why is that the case, in your little metaphysical synthesis, if I might ask?
In my view of the universe, it has indeed always existed in all time, and it is certainly created - because everything which exists apart from God is created by God.
Whether the subject exists in time, and in all time, or not, makes no difference to whether the subject is created or not. For instance, the universe is the totality of temporal reality - therefore it has existed in all times. A small part of the universe, like me, is not the totality of spatial or temporal reality, and therefore I do not exist in all time. To the contrary example, angels are wholly apart from that spatiotemporal reality, but again, that is something which makes no difference to their createdness.
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