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[split] from Kony 2012 thread
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RE: KONY 2012
(March 7, 2012 at 10:53 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: You say you support people having a right to be as racist as they want, and to even have that racism supported by law. You support people to be allowed to be as mean and greedy and racist and hateful as they want in business and in their regular life and that these things should naturally be enforced by the police.
Once again you misrepresent my position...and I thought we agreed not to bring this up again? Then again, it has been two weeks or so, which was how long I predicted the "truce" would last. In any case, I don't support the police enforcing racism; I support the police enforcing property rights. If I want to ban all people shorter than 6ft in my store, I should have the right to do so (since it's my store and my property). People who refuse to comply with my rules in my property are no less than trespassing, and I should have the right to call the police and ask for them to be escorted off the premises.

Quote:I dont know. Maybe its just me, but this is a big jump between "People should be allowed to hang up whites only signs and have the police enforce it" to "Kony should be stopped."

Right...because all my political views are based on one single belief in property rights? There's not so much of a jump, but rather a complete disconnect. They are two completely separate issues; I honestly don't see how you can connect the two. This isn't an issue of property rights; this is an issue of the right to life, and the right not to be enslaved and used as sex slaves / soldiers.

Quote:Am I right in thinking this? You would stop Kony, and try to save the children. But after saving the children you would allow the police to enforce racism, haterd and greed. These very children you might save and bring to your country, but fully support a business in paying them less than whites, or not selling them services, taking advantage of them socially and economically, as "whites only" busiensses enforced, etc..etc...

No, I'd allow the police to enforce property rights of people who owned property. Again, we see you use the words "whites only" as if it is my only argument for property rights, which you know is complete bullshit, and I've called you out on it before. Property rights cover everyone, regardless of their race. If the children I "save" want to set up a store and then refuse to sell me stuff because of the colour of my skin, I'd support their right to do it (although I'd find it quite insulting, and would encourage people not to shop there).

Quote:Look, i dont want to fight over this again, but I am having a hard time understanding how you can jump from "whites only signs should be enforced" to "Kick Kony's ass".

There is no jump needed. They are completely different issues. Just like how I can "jump" from "whites only signs" to "everyone should be free to take whatever drugs they like"; they are completely different issues.

Anyway, this isn't the place for such a discussion. If you really want to continue it, create a new thread and I'll merge in these posts. This thread is supposed to be about a very worthy cause.
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[split] from Kony 2012 thread - by reverendjeremiah - March 7, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Tiberius - March 7, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by reverendjeremiah - March 7, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by LastPoet - March 8, 2012 at 10:10 am
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by reverendjeremiah - March 8, 2012 at 11:41 am
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by LastPoet - March 8, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by NoMoreFaith - March 8, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Napoléon - March 8, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by NoMoreFaith - March 8, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Napoléon - March 8, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by NoMoreFaith - March 8, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Napoléon - March 8, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Violet - March 8, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Nine - March 8, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Shell B - March 8, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Shell B - March 8, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Nine - March 8, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by LastPoet - March 8, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Tiberius - March 8, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by NoMoreFaith - March 8, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Tiberius - March 8, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Shell B - March 8, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Tiberius - March 8, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: [split] from Kony 2012 thread - by Shell B - March 8, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: KONY 2012 - by Nine - March 7, 2012 at 11:00 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Napoléon - March 7, 2012 at 11:01 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by reverendjeremiah - March 7, 2012 at 11:12 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Nine - March 7, 2012 at 11:16 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by reverendjeremiah - March 7, 2012 at 11:17 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Nine - March 7, 2012 at 11:29 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Napoléon - March 7, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by reverendjeremiah - March 7, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by picto90 - March 7, 2012 at 11:41 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Napoléon - March 7, 2012 at 11:46 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Creed of Heresy - March 7, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Violet - March 8, 2012 at 6:30 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Napoléon - March 7, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Nine - March 7, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: KONY 2012 - by Creed of Heresy - March 7, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: KONY 2012 - by Shell B - March 7, 2012 at 1:24 pm
RE: KONY 2012 - by Tiberius - March 7, 2012 at 2:06 pm
[split] KONY 2012 - by reverendjeremiah - March 7, 2012 at 3:26 pm

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