(August 7, 2009 at 3:40 pm)Jon Paul Wrote:(August 7, 2009 at 11:48 am)amw79 Wrote: No evidence provided, simply more referrals to previous posts, and more discussion about subjective evidence. End of.
You are saying that I have provided no evidence. The problem is, I have provided evidence. But you demand your own, special kind of evidence. You tell me what evidence to give you; you dismiss my arguments, not by refuting them, but merely by saying "not that evidence, some other evidence!".
In other words, what you have done is EXACTLY make subjective demands for evidence of a subjective kind, which is beyond all reasonableness.
You don't get to dictate what kind of evidence or argument I give. All you get to do, if this is to be rational discourse, is either refute it or remain silent.
There is no special kind of evidence. Evidence is something that is detectable and study-able material that separates reality from fantasy. It works rather well but not when it comes to religion. Evidence does not reside in books or scriptures. Your so called "god" is supposedly outside all known detection methods that also include our natural senses like sight, sound and touch. Which spark of doubts because there is nothing to confirm he/it's existence and so is reasonably rejected. God is only supported by an unreliable source that is superstition. Faith alone is all you have for this being. People also doubt and reject because it's easy to imagine an all powerful being. You cannot disprove it just as you cannot disprove the flying spaghetti monster. Evidence is vital for progress in establishing a beings existence. Something we can detect and study and not just from some book or strange feelings.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.