(August 8, 2009 at 10:22 pm)amw79 Wrote: Christ on a bike! So when you said , in a reply to my post - "So you don't need to comment on that. You only need to focus on your spiritual growth and restitution, and ultimately salvation.", you were talking to Christians? Okey Dokey.English is not my first language. Excuse me.
(August 8, 2009 at 10:22 pm)amw79 Wrote: Just out of interest, (but I'm sure you'll have some semantic argument as rebuttal) do you not think it is of unusual coincidence that the exact problem which Catholicism proposes for every human being (namely "the miserablenesss of our being", and millstone of original sin, is exactky what Catholicism offeres as as miraculous solution/redemption, by following their practices. Remind you of advertising at all? (Present erroneous problem, declare your product as best solution = $$$$$$$$).The Fall is a doctrine which is recognised by all orthodox Christians, whether they be Roman Catholic, Protestant, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, etc.
As to whether it is a "problem", or whether it is too pessimistic about human nature, I would say no. If you look around yourself, it would rather be pessimistic to say that "everything is alright", because it would be the same as saying that you don't have an ideal for a higher and more perfect and harmonious state of being.
And because it is also a Christian doctrine that we as humans are beings made in the image of God, namely as rational and intellectual souls and bodies. Such an optimistic anthropology certainly is not affirmed in an atheistic worldview.
The people who are the most bigoted are the people who have no convictions at all.
-G. K. Chesterton
-G. K. Chesterton
