RE: I am an orthodox Christian, ask me a question!
August 9, 2009 at 12:27 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2009 at 12:30 pm by Jon Paul.)
(August 9, 2009 at 12:15 pm)Ace Wrote: So many words all to say so little. Your evidence is not good enough. Not in a long shot.You have done nothing to refute it. You have simply repeated this sentence, like an american evangelical repeats that "I don't accept the evidence for evolution. Not good enough. Not by a long shot".
(August 9, 2009 at 12:15 pm)Ace Wrote: God is just a character like any other thought up character. I mentioned that in the past gods used to be suns, moons ect. ectIn which past? The very first part of the Bible, Genesis, says that God created the sun, moon and stars, and this is a very old belief system, which has always stated that God is transcendent.
Besides, what you are doing is simply a straw man, because you are addressing a claim which is not mine, to distract attention from my actual argument and suspend judgement.
(August 9, 2009 at 12:15 pm)Ace Wrote: because as science advances god vanishes.Science, at least modern science, doesn't even deal with the proposition of Gods existence. It excludes it a priori as outside it's own scope of investigation, because it only investigates the natural world and natural causes, and so it has no ambition of testing the proposition of God.
(August 9, 2009 at 12:15 pm)Ace Wrote: Being beyond direct empirical evidence is translation to me as useless evidence.So if you see a footprint in the snow, and there is no animal, or a fingerprint on a gun, and no person, you conclude that this is useless evidence, because the agent which put it there (the animal or person) is outside of direct observation?
Of course you don't. Much empirical evidence in science is not based on direct observation, but to the contrary, empirical obsevation of facts after the effect, which testify and make evident the truth of a phenomenon that caused this "trace" of it (the footprint, the finger print, or whatever it might be).
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