(August 11, 2009 at 4:42 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: There's no reason for transcendence to exist. As you say - objective truth exists independently of us. So we don't have to be transcended by an objective mind. It exists independent of us, and independent of whether we believe in it or not.I agree that truth exists independently of whether we believe it or not, which has been my point all along.
But you are claiming it now, as an atheist. My question to you is, then, how that is the case given atheism. For instance, in which sense does the law of contradiction exist in the physical universe independently of whether a mind has conceived of it and how do you demonstrate this to be the case without appealing to a minds conceptual realisation of it?
The people who are the most bigoted are the people who have no convictions at all.
-G. K. Chesterton
-G. K. Chesterton