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[reverendjeremiah]

You do not even know our system, so maybe you should shut up and listen for a while, maybe you can learn something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Turkism

In anarchy, everyone is free to overthrow the other.

"Overthrow"? Then that really isnt an anarchy is it? An anarchy is without a hierarchy. If someone overthrows someone, then that is no longer an anarchy and is now a usurpation. Please educate yourself to the meaning of such words and terms before you engage in conversation about them.

There is no law and order, and therefore, there is no need to lie either, there is only barbarism.

There is no governmental law, but as far as order you are flat out wrong. What you are describing is NON-anarchists coming into an anarchal structure to wreak havok and usurp power from the people. Those "barbarians" care nothing of anarchy and wish to place themselves into supreme authority over people. An anarchist is not a barbarian. An anarchist wishes EVERYONE to have equal freedom such as they. An anarchist lives by the motto "live and let live", and thus a natural order of mutual society arises from the reciprocal respect of differences without resorting to violence or force.

These barbarians you speak of.... they arent anarchists.

Who is this lifelong lying fraud tyrant that you speak of? We do not have such a person on the top of our heads. We do not idolize leaders, as leaders are at the end, there to serve the Turks, not to be served by the Turks.
Throughout the ages of Turkish history, no ruler has ever been above the law, nor had the autority to flaunt the law. Even those who were given supreme powers by their people, knew that the people were able to take it away. As our great forefather Atatürk said: "The people can make me leave if they want to."

Besides, Turkish nationalism cannot be preserved if the people do not want to preserve it. If I wouldn't be a staunch nationalist, if my peers at the ocak wouldn't be staunch nationalists like myself, who would be there to preserve our people, our language and our culture? If there weren't the multitudes who stand still while they pass by a school where our national anthem is sung, who would be there to preserve our spirit?

It is the people who empower nationalist ideologies, not leaders. This, you cannot understand.
Even Hitler came to power with the support of the German people.
If the Germans did not support him, than who did?
Just like that, Turkish nationalism is kept alive by the people, for the people.
Not by leaders for personal gain.

nationalism is a disease. It is false and a lie. You are not indiginous to those areas, nor are you some special "race". Your entire nationalism is a delusion that would be used to grant a false authority over a tract of land that nobody, no animal, nor plant truly owns or would ever own. Land cannot be owned, but people can fool others into thinking of such fraud. Your turkish nationalism is kept alive just like santa clause and the easter bunny are kept alive. In the thoughts and delusions of greedy and vain people. You do not gain my pity. You have earned my disdain.

You are an old man, that's why I don't want to be disrespectful, but you're slowly getting on my nerves with your generic "omg fascist" bullshit.
I think that your anarchism only goes as far as your words go. Nowhere.

Im only 40, and I bet I can still kick an ass pretty good. Nationalism IS fascism numb nuts! Your apologetics dont mean shit to me because I know better. I dont "omg fascism" to you, so dont try to juvenile my posts to you about this. Have all the dreams you want of a racially "owned" home land all you want. You will have opposition, not to mention science and fact will NOT be on your side.

As far as your opinion on anarchism: Shit, you dont even understand what it is.